Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014

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Quote from: YellowSpike on June 09, 2015, 07:41:21 PMHow does it feel? Honestly, aside from the occasional pains that I still have (due to hip screws, weak muscles, etc.), it feels and looks totally normal. If my gait were better, no one would know I did LL. Although, the height difference is pretty nice. I love doing cardio at the gym, and seeing guys that from far away look taller than me, but I'm the same height or taller than them when I'm closer to them.

I still feel like a short guy (probably always will to some degree) on the inside, but everyone is telling me that I'm about average now.

Cool, I was afraid it'd feel weird. Is your tibia/femur ratio within normal range then?

I can tell you this much at least, before I became self concious of my height I thought of all men between 170 and 2m as pretty much average. Rarely gave someones height a second thought, now that you're in the normal range I reckon people will feel the same way about you, dunno if that makes you feel good or not.

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Quote from: Uppland on June 09, 2015, 07:48:10 PMCool, I was afraid it'd feel weird. Is your tibia/femur ratio within normal range then?

I can tell you this much at least, before I became self concious of my height I thought of all men between 170 and 2m as pretty much average. Rarely gave someones height a second thought, now that you're in the normal range I reckon people will feel the same way about you, dunno if that makes you feel good or not.

I posted some pics of my proportions a while back. I think they look perfectly normal, and will look even better when my quads fill out more.

Yes. I do feel better about my height, and think it will improve more when my walk is normal again. 173 isn't bad. I now find myself getting slightly annoyed only when guys I somewhat know are just a little taller than me. Tall guys don't bother me, I know they're obviously taller...but I get annoyed with the 5'9/5'10 crowd sometimes because it's like "I'm so close to being there." But I am happy with what I've achieved so far.

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Hey yellowspike, glad to see you are doing well. I'm hoping to do surgery with Dr Guichet next feburary. I'm also a trainee orthopedic doctor, I was wondering how you felt about posting X-rays, as bone union and consolidation with this surgery is an aspect which still concerns me a little. Were you required to get EOS 3D X-rays preoperatively, as this is a request I have from Dr Guichet, however it is very new technology and not readily available. I presume follow up X-rays were of the usual type. Also how do you feel about your sitting femur/tibia ratio? Would you consider posting a picture of this view? I appreciate if you do not want to post these things as it is a little intrusive.

Best wishes

Sunflower

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Quote from: sunflower on June 09, 2015, 08:54:43 PMHey yellowspike, glad to see you are doing well. I'm hoping to do surgery with Dr Guichet next feburary. I'm also a trainee orthopedic doctor, I was wondering how you felt about posting X-rays, as bone union and consolidation with this surgery is an aspect which still concerns me a little. Were you required to get EOS 3D X-rays preoperatively, as this is a request I have from Dr Guichet, however it is very new technology and not readily available. I presume follow up X-rays were of the usual type. Also how do you feel about your sitting femur/tibia ratio? Would you consider posting a picture of this view? I appreciate if you do not want to post these things as it is a little intrusive.

Best wishes

Sunflower

Hey Sunflower. Yes, I had to do the EOS 3D x-rays when I was in Milano. When you start the process with Dr. G, he will give you a list of all the things that you need to have done before he will do the surgery on you.

As far as the pictures, we'll see. I'm honestly not very comfortable posting many pictures or x-rays on here. Plus, the x-rays I have are all on disc. I sent the files to Dr. G via an app he uses, and he converts them to high-res x-rays. So the little jpeg files I have wouldn't be of much use to you guys I don't think.

My sitting femur/tibia ratio is fine to me. Not a single person has commented on it. I've hooked up with a few girls since being back, and they've obviously seen me nked, but haven't said anything about it (the one girl who knew I did LL said my femurs "matched" my tibias perfectly).

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Glad to hear your getting on well with relationships, it sounds like you are very successful with the ladies! Goodwork! Do you feel an improvement in your height neurosis? I think it would be very interesting if one of the cosmetic leg lengthening surgeons collected data on pre and post operative psychological states of patients to see if their is a significant improvement. I cannot find any scientific papers to this effect although Dr Guichet states that he thinks most of his patients derive a benefit. I have an appointment with a psychiatrist for pre surgery assessment next month. I would be interested to know what your psychiatrist thought about the procedure?

Thanks again.

Sunflower

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all the best YellowSpike!

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I've been back to my normal routine for some time now...and I have to say, 7cm of height makes a huge difference. I keep passing by guys that used to be taller than me even when I wore elevator shoes that supposedly gave me 3 inches (-1 for the fact that everyone else gets an inch in their shoes, and about -.5 more for the angle of your heel)...and now I'm about the same height or sometimes taller in just normal shoes. It's a pretty awesome feeling. 5'8" is of course still short, but it's a huge improvement from being just over 5'5", and I do feel like I blend in more unless it's all 6ft+ men around (which does happen sometimes).

Walking continues to improve, and I have times where my walking feels/looks pretty close to normal (with only a subtle hip sway). It's only bad when I've been sitting for a while or come off the elliptical/stairmaster when my legs are tight and the swaying then is more noticeable. But whatever, as long as it continues to improve, it's fine.

I'm moving forward with my life now, including making career moves. I make pretty good money for my age/location, but I know I can be doing better. I don't know if tibias are in the cards for me simply because they take too long (and I can't sacrifice my career for the ridiculously long tibia recovery). I'd like to do another inch in my femurs, and I don't think my femur/tibia proportions would be thrown off too much. I'm trying to think how I might  manage to do an inch maybe using vacation time at a new job or something like that (it's only 2 weeks to get an inch, and then I'm told by Dr G that consolidation is usually much faster). If I have to come to work on crutches for a bit, then so be it. 5'9", for me, would be epic, and I think the official end of it all. Time will tell.

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if you wear elevator shoes with advertised gain of 3", they give you 3.5cm of height compared to typical piar of shoes, just so you know.

I have these

http://www.tallmenshoes.com/elevator-shoes-k8828102.html

they are okay to preview yourself 3.5cm taller, but not suitable for permanent use, you can instead put a 2cm lift inside a high top sneaker, this is much easier to wear.

but yeah 5 8 ain't short by any definiton, it is within 1 standard deviation of the mean, therefore it is medium height, youd really need to be 4cm shorter to be considered in the short range for men.

if you do another LL for 3cm will it be external tibs then?

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5'8" is short, but it's passable, at least.

I don't want to do tibias, I've heard even for an inch, external tibias take like 5 or 6 months. I don't have that kind of time. So I might do another inch in femurs and hope that my femur/tibia proportions aren't horrible. I've been told that some guys started at like 164 and did 10cm with the Gnail and still looked ok. So maybe I will go that route.

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I have only heard of a few cases where they re do the same bone segment, sounds like an interesting idea.

but is it worth spending £40K just for 3cm of height, especially when you are only 4cm below the male average? isn't that just a bit excessive, maybe you can put that money into something more practical, maybe get a trainer and work out or something, height seems less advantageous at this point.

actually 5' 8" isn't short at all.

standard deviation’ wikipedia, the average height for adult men in the United States is about 177.5cm/5’ 10” inches, with a standard deviation of around 3 inches. This means that most men (68%) have a height within 3 inches of the mean (170cm/5’ 7”–6’ 1”)  – one standard deviation

‘Short stature’ –Wikipedia, "short" is 170 centimetres and under (5 ft 7 in)  as it is 1 standard deviation below the average.

sub-reddit -  For the purpose of this subreddit, 5'7'' and less is considered "short" for men

I would also point to the short and male documentary, where in men were from 5' 4" - 5' 6" living in the US.