10 cm for lengthening femur

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Quote from: tgogo on October 28, 2020, 10:22:07 AMthank you for your reply , I am not planing to be the NBA  hahaha , but nowadays we can do it in turkey  30k or less , do you have any idea about CLL in Turkey ?

I am aware of this LL doctor(s)/clinic is in Turkey, but I can’t comment on someone I do not know in detail. Like any surgery, you have to weigh out the benefits vs costs and risks to determine if it is worth. I personally don’t see anyone who is 6’3” benefiting more than the high costs and risks of CLL, but only you know yourself far better than anyone else.

https://wannabetaller.com/

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Turkey seems to be very hit or miss. There are a lot of predatorial turkish marketing companies for LL such as wannabetaller. Several patients have had bad experiences with wannabetaller, so you might want to avoid them if you can. It is better to find an individual doctor with a good reputation and history. For example, Dr. Halil Buldu in Istanbul. I am currently doing lengthening with him (LON Femurs). Currently at around 8cm going for 8.5-9cm. He is very skilled and kind, you can check him out if you'd like.

In my mind I am thinking 10cm could be possible, but not without a quite considerable risk. The only reason i am continuing after hitting 8cm is because I feel really good and i have some more time here in Istanbul. However, if I were to sense something was wrong at this point, I would immediately stop lengthening.

My starting height was 177 in the evening, around 179-180 in the morning and I haven't experienced any problems during lengthening. Dr. Halil has a good team and he really cares about his patients. This is my experience with him atleast.

Also, don't let people tell you that you can't have LL because you are a certain height, it's your body, money, and time.

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Quote from: tgogo on October 28, 2020, 10:22:07 AMthank you for your reply , I am not planing to be the NBA  hahaha , but nowadays we can do it in turkey  30k or less , do you have any idea about CLL in Turkey ?

Irrespective of if you choose to go ahead with or not, one thing you should definitely shouldn't do is to go for cheaper unproven option. In your case the quality of life won't be improved by much, if any. Some would even say that a 195+ male will be considered social awkward and will actually put you at a disadvantage compared to your current height. But that is not the point, the most important is to choose for the safest option possible. If you cannot afford it than don't do it as you are not missing out on anything if you already are 185-188 height range.

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Quote from: lolwhyamidoingthis on October 28, 2020, 02:06:59 PMAlso, don't let people tell you that you can't have LL because you are a certain height, it's your body, money, and time.

Sure it's ultimately the individual's decision to make the decision to go through any surgery, but some intelligent people and doctors can provide useful advice on that decision.

As with any surgery, whether medically necessary or cosmetic, the individual has to make a decision on the benefits vs the costs and risks. At a height of 185cm, there appears to be no significant benefit that will outweigh all the high costs and risks of the LL surgery. You can try to find a lower cost with an unreliable doctor, but that will only increase the risks (complications, even being disabled) and produce no reduction to the overall "costs and risks".

Also, it appears your overall benefits of LL surgery will be in the negative. You can find plenty of articles and videos on the internet of the problems of tall people. For a 6'3" man to reach a height of 6'6" or 6'7", you're going to have more challenges with no benefits, such as finding pants that fit (you'll be paying a lot more looking for specialty pants that fit), fitting into any vehicle (car, bus, airplane, etc...), and so forth.

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A lot of what you're saying here is not correct. 185cm is not even close to 6'3", its barely even 6'1". Also, the fact that you are implying that doctors with excellent histories like Dr. Halil Buldu are "unreliable" solely based on his prices is utterly absurd. Are you one of the revered members of the "Paley dckriding Community"? The reason he offers cheap methods is because it's cheap hardware, LON never costs alot.

Also, you are looking at the "benefits" in a purely objective way, completely ignoring OP's subjective feelings about his height and HIS perceived benefits from this surgery. For all you know, OP can be from the Netherlands where 185 is not considered tall at all, its barely above average. It really seems like you are just a classic LL gatekeeper.

Some do LL in an attempt to get closer to average height to cure their height dysphoria, while some do LL in an attempt to get to a taller height for whatever reason (vanity, insecurities,etc).

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Quote from: lolwhyamidoingthis on October 28, 2020, 06:20:59 PMA lot of what you're saying here is not correct. 185cm is not even close to 6'3", its barely even 6'1". Also, the fact that you are implying that doctors with excellent histories like Dr. Halil Buldu are "unreliable" solely based on his prices is utterly absurd. Are you one of the revered members of the "Paley dckriding Community"? The reason he offers cheap methods is because it's cheap hardware, LON never costs alot.

Also, you are looking at the "benefits" in a purely objective way, completely ignoring OP's subjective feelings about his height and HIS perceived benefits from this surgery. For all you know, OP can be from the Netherlands where 185 is not considered tall at all, its barely above average. It really seems like you are just a classic LL gatekeeper.

Some do LL in an attempt to get closer to average height to cure their height dysphoria, while some do LL in an attempt to get to a taller height for whatever reason (vanity, insecurities,etc).

You raise some good points but at the same time assume many things. Nobody is stopping anyone from doing LL, some of us are only trying to be helpful by raising some valid points that will help him to make an informed choice. When someone says to do it safely it  can mean many things, for example in Turkey your doctor might be an experienced surgeon but is his track record is as strong as some of the other options available? This is not to have any slight on your choice but another aspect of safety is the regulations governing patient's safety. A surgeon in USA or some of the European countries has much more to loose due to the tighter regulation governing Cosmetic surgery than lets say for example in china, India or perhaps even turkey. All things being equal, there is an increased level of safety for the patient in doing CLL in those countries.

Now coming to to OPs present height, he claimed in another thread he is 185-189 so it does puts him at at height where he is easily taller than 95% of the world's population. Of-course if he still sees some subjective benefit in doing CLL than by all means he should do so. Some of us here are only trying to point out some aspects, which he might or might not have considered. This is a community after all and we are not here to be cheerleaders rather share opinions and knowledge.

I wish you well with journey in Turkey and hope to achieve your goals.

Take Care.

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Quote from: lolwhyamidoingthis on October 28, 2020, 06:20:59 PMA lot of what you're saying here is not correct. 185cm is not even close to 6'3", its barely even 6'1". Also, the fact that you are implying that doctors with excellent histories like Dr. Halil Buldu are "unreliable" solely based on his prices is utterly absurd. Are you one of the revered members of the "Paley dckriding Community"? The reason he offers cheap methods is because it's cheap hardware, LON never costs alot.

My bad, your right. 185cm = 72.83 inches. The 6 foot mark starts at 72 inches (not 70 inches). So 185cm is a little under 6'1".

I didn't tell him to not get CLL, just to balance out all the benefits vs costs and risks. At a little under 6'1", there would be a little more benefits for CLL than a 6'3" man, and if he is from the Netherlands, he would be about average. But it seems like he is from Turkey, because he is asking. I only saw that website from Turkey before, and he was asking about a LL doctor from Turkey, so I provided that website. I am not making decisions for him, just providing some insight based on the information he provides and what he is asking.

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It seems you have a fundemental misunderstanding what gatekeeping is. It is quite obvious it does not mean literally stopping someone from doing LL. The way Stryder confidently says there are no "significant benefits" for someone of OP's stature to do LL, and that if he does not have a 100k budget, he would have to resort to cheaper "UNRELIABLE" doctors. Notice the wording? The assumption that if the procedure is low cost, therefore the doctor is "unreliable". Such a disingenuous thing to say.

Regarding OP's height, if he stated his height was 185-189 it is safe to assume the higher number is his morning height, which really does not matter in day to day life.

I also find it funny how you say that i "assume many things" when you assume Turkey is not a reliable country to go to for health tourism, even comparing it to India and China. Turkey is one of the five world leaders in health tourism, and has the most US- accredited hospitals.

You also point out the fact that with his height he is "easily taller than 95% of the world's population". This bears absolutely no relevance. The only average height that matters is the country where YOU live. Why would a person from for example the Netherlands give a fk about whether or not he is taller than people in for example Peru? It will never affect him, so why even bring it up?

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Also, he initially asked about Stryde internal nails, not LON.

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Why would the fact that he brought up Turkey as a possible option mean he is from Turkey? Turkey is by far the best cheap option right now. How long have you been in the LL community? I am from Sweden and my first thought for a cheap surgery was Turkey aswell.

Also, 185cm is not only considered about average in the Netherlands. It would be considered the same thing in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Serbia, etc.

It boggles my mind why everyone thinks Turkey is an unreliable option when there has been nothing to support this claim. The only really bad cases i know of are the patients that booked their surgery through the scam marketing sites, like wannabetaller