153cm to at least 165cm possible without looking weird?

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Posted on Jan 14, 2021, 6:19 am

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I'm a 26 year old Asian guy who unfortunately got bad genes. I'm skinny fat, 153cm tall with around the same wingspan. I realize someone else made a similar thread here but I'm looking for opinions for my specific case. I'm relatively healthy, experience some body pains every now and then but I'm trying to get a regular work out schedule partly to prepare my body for this surgery as well.

I want to attain at least 165cm (+12cm) so it looks like I'll have to do tibias and femurs. Any opinions? Is this too far-fetched? Should I lessen my target height? How much of a factor is age, considering I probably won't be able to get this done this year due to corona and travel restrictions?

Note I will be spending most of my life in places where the average height for men isn't over 175cm so I think 165cm shouldn't be too bad?

Considering Giotikas or Donghoon, still not sure who can do +12cm more reliably.

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Posted on Jan 14, 2021, 10:04 am

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Quote from: Skyisthelimit on January 14, 2021, 09:10:42 AMGo for it! Go as far as your body lets you. In your case, I would set my goal at 8cm femurs and 6-7cm tibias with 8 months to a year between them. You should not be thinking about proportions at that height, that’s the least of your problems. Unless you’re in your forties, you shouldn’t worry that much about age. You should think about your overall health and your flexibility. At 26 you’re still relatively young. Both of these doctors have a good track but I believe Donghoon has more experience with reaching those numbers you’re aiming for. Best of luck!

Thank you, appreciate your thoughts. I've just been reading about LL on and off for a couple months now but admittedly I haven't done A LOT of research about it yet. I know there are generally accepted safe limits as far as the max. length is concerned. But is it too risky to lengthen femurs and tibias at the same time? I wouldn't mind waiting 8~12 months to do another lengthening surgery but I'm not sure how long it would take in total when we have to factor in the recovery period which, as far as I understand, is different for every person.

Edit: Also with a +12-15cm lengthening goal how much would this affect my physical abilities? I like biking and running as hobbies, wonder how much the surgery would affect my abilities. I am well aware that I might not recover to 100% but I wouldn't want to have the equivalent of a 60-year-old's legs either.

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Posted on Jan 14, 2021, 10:45 am

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I see, thanks. So..., is the lengthening+recovery period really that bad? I've read some diaries but sometimes it's difficult to accurately judge how the person felt during the whole process just based on what they wrote on an internet forum. Also, tibias first or femurs first?

Thank you guys.

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Posted on Jan 16, 2021, 4:12 pm

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Quote from: asian on January 16, 2021, 10:46:18 AM12 is doable, lengthen femur 8cm first, to do tibia one year later. Compare to your height, the proportion is not something you should worry about...

Thanks, I'll see if I can do 8cm femurs. Might be a stretch considering my initial height but I think the doctor and my body will be the best judge of this. I know height is my main problem here but I can't help but worry about having T-rex arms especially with my short wingspan.

Thank you all for your replies.

Edit: and asian I read your diary just recently, want to say congrats and I hope you're enjoying your new height

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Posted on Feb 23, 2021, 4:58 am

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Hi guys i'm back with some other questions:

My wingspan is 156cm would this look very weird or make other people think "he definitely did LL" if I reach 165cm?
My torso length - c7 to iliac crest - is 45cm. Won't my torso look too short as opposed to my height?
I understand the internal rods aren't removed right after the lengthening period is done. I read on cyborg4life's blog that they are removed after a minimum of 1 year. Can I do physical activities like running even with the rods still in place?

Thank you

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Posted on Feb 23, 2021, 1:44 pm

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Yep I won't do 20cm that's for sure. In these pics it's pretty obvious that he did LL because of arm length.

Quote from: ghkid2021 on February 23, 2021, 05:19:00 AM3) ye u can do physical activities for sure

Thanks I really want to be able to do walking and biking after lengthening. Do you think I can start right after my 3 months of lengthening or how long do people usually wait until they're cleared to do physical activities (before rod removal)? I am planning to do stryde by the way as soon as they ship again.

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Posted on Feb 26, 2021, 3:03 pm

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Quote from: Kal el on February 26, 2021, 08:39:53 AMHow tall r u??

153 cm now. Like i said in my original post i got bad genes, short parents, but i dont blame them ofc.

Quote from: Ghostfish on February 26, 2021, 05:43:54 AMHi canterk
I think considering your current height, two surgeries could or should be the way to go as you said. In that case, I recommend you to start with tibia rather than femur, because tibiaa take much longer time to recover than femurs. I know some patients who did femurs or tibias. Patients with femur cll got back to normal life much faster than ones with tibias. Normal life include light sport (bike or jogging) or activity. You can't expect to be able to run like sprint or to play basketball or tennis anything like that until you remove rods.

If you start with tibias for cll, you can have still time for your tibias to recover while you are doing surgery and recovery for femurs. So you could save some time by this way, as supposed to have femurs followed by tibias. I recommend femurs for most of ppl who are somewhat considering both tibias and femurs but without a certainty.

Doing two segments together (normally 3-4 weeks after the first surgery which is normally femur) is extremely hard and there is a high chance you may stop before 10 cm in total. If you are so sure that you can't find additional time for two separate surgeries, you can do this. If you can afford time, do two surgeries in apart. That is the better option to achieve more length.

Finally, don't worry too much about proportion or arm length. Ppl don't really care about other's arm length but do care about other's height at least to a certain degree. Once you reach at least 10 cm, you can take a closer look at your arm length and can stop lengthening at any time you feel that is enough.

You are still very young! If you have time and money, go for it!! But just be careful and patient!!

Good luck!

Thanks very much for your insightful post. I will consider doing tibias first even though the height gain will be less than femurs. Obviously i want to be taller faster and i would rather be 5'3" for a while than 5'2" for a while (need to wait 1 year before 2nd surgery afaik), but what you said makes a lot of sense. Thanks again.

Quote from: donnyrick on February 26, 2021, 05:12:23 AMThis is going to sound harsh but=
Considering how short you are already, what is the purpose of going from 5 to 5'5. Maybe because you live in china that makes it reasonable to do.
In the west being 5'5 is already over for you. Thats my experience. I know that sounds super dark and morbid. But if i was 5 feet tall i would just accept it because going through torture to become 5'5 is meaningless.

At least if you are 5 feet tall you can be the weirdo freak and get some attention that way haha.

I am not from China and I will not live in a western country where you must be at least 5'9" to be considered above average.

Anyway thanks for sharing your opinion.

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Quote from: Kal el on February 26, 2021, 08:39:53 AMHow tall r u??

153 cm now. Like i said in my original post i got bad genes, short parents, but i dont blame them ofc.

Quote from: Ghostfish on February 26, 2021, 05:43:54 AMHi canterk
I think considering your current height, two surgeries could or should be the way to go as you said. In that case, I recommend you to start with tibia rather than femur, because tibiaa take much longer time to recover than femurs. I know some patients who did femurs or tibias. Patients with femur cll got back to normal life much faster than ones with tibias. Normal life include light sport (bike or jogging) or activity. You can't expect to be able to run like sprint or to play basketball or tennis anything like that until you remove rods.

If you start with tibias for cll, you can have still time for your tibias to recover while you are doing surgery and recovery for femurs. So you could save some time by this way, as supposed to have femurs followed by tibias. I recommend femurs for most of ppl who are somewhat considering both tibias and femurs but without a certainty.

Doing two segments together (normally 3-4 weeks after the first surgery which is normally femur) is extremely hard and there is a high chance you may stop before 10 cm in total. If you are so sure that you can't find additional time for two separate surgeries, you can do this. If you can afford time, do two surgeries in apart. That is the better option to achieve more length.

Finally, don't worry too much about proportion or arm length. Ppl don't really care about other's arm length but do care about other's height at least to a certain degree. Once you reach at least 10 cm, you can take a closer look at your arm length and can stop lengthening at any time you feel that is enough.

You are still very young! If you have time and money, go for it!! But just be careful and patient!!

Good luck!

Thanks very much for your insightful post. I will consider doing tibias first even though the height gain will be less than femurs. Obviously i want to be taller faster and i would rather be 5'3" for a while than 5'2" for a while (need to wait 1 year before 2nd surgery afaik), but what you said makes a lot of sense. Thanks again.

Quote from: donnyrick on February 26, 2021, 05:12:23 AMThis is going to sound harsh but=
Considering how short you are already, what is the purpose of going from 5 to 5'5. Maybe because you live in china that makes it reasonable to do.
In the west being 5'5 is already over for you. Thats my experience. I know that sounds super dark and morbid. But if i was 5 feet tall i would just accept it because going through torture to become 5'5 is meaningless.

At least if you are 5 feet tall you can be the weirdo freak and get some attention that way haha.

I am not from China and I will not live in a western country where you must be at least 5'9" to be considered above average.

Anyway thanks for sharing your opinion.

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