I'm telling you guys now that pua is a scam. I mean it. You cannot get hot women as a short man without money and status. I just don't want anyone to get their hopes up. I already went through that bull .
Bodybuilder knows what he is talking about. You cannot get hot girls as a short man under 5'8. I mean that honestly.
Quote from: MrHandsome on June 29, 2017, 06:31:12 AMI'm telling you guys now that pua is a scam. I mean it. You cannot get hot women as a short man without money and status. I just don't want anyone to get their hopes up. I already went through that bullcrap.
Bodybuilder knows what he is talking about. You cannot get hot girls as a short man under 5'8. I mean that honestly.
I'm sorry but this is BS.
Look at some of your perceptions of the world:
Quote from: MrHandsome on June 29, 2017, 01:41:22 AMDo you guys realize that short guys have to be literally millionaires to have any chance with decent looking women?
The only word to describe that thought is delusional.
There are lots of short guys that attract pretty girls. I was 5'2(albeit in India, it's still really short) and have been hit on by pretty girls. If I wasn't a total introvert with my head up my ass, I would've dated a lot more than I did.
Quote from: MrHandsome on June 26, 2017, 10:50:14 PMMan to be honest I might actually be ugly as well that's why I am having so much trouble. I have a great body and full head of hair but my face must not be too great. This has been confirmed by tinder where I'm only sparingly getting matches.
This might be the real problem. I hope this doesn't offend you. This is me pointing you in the right direction. If you're 5'8 and finding it incredibly hard to date, it's either the state of mind or the face. Sure 5'8 isn't anybody's dream height, but a 5'8 guy with other attributes can most definitely score.
So if there's a possibility that height isn't the problem, is LL really going to make you happy? Food for thought.
Here's what I'll say with absolute certainty: Only get LL if you're sure that height is your Achilles heel, your fictional little nemesis. If you're not sure, sort your thoughts out first.
The only thing that needs to be said here:
I understand that the places where BodyBuilder and MrHandsome live have plenty of stupid superficial women. However, even if being short is a disadvantage in terms of physical attractiveness, there are girls out there who care about other stuff more. These girls can also be good looking and there is plenty of short people who have beautiful girlfriends and are happy.
This is why I think it's bull all this talk about "you get nothing if you are less than 5'7", and all this self-hating. A lot of these users are actively encouraging people to do LL and hate themselves because of their heights which I think it's very irresponsible. All those people talking in absolutes like "you should do the surgery only if you are from 5'5 to 5'9 because you will benefit in dating" know nothing. I, for instance, think it's stupid to do the surgery at 5'8, others might say 5'7 or 5'10, whatever.
The point is this surgery in not necessary and all this talk about people below (insert your height level) cm won't get women or won't get respected is stupid.
Quote from: biggerdreams on June 29, 2017, 05:10:21 AMI feel like if someone doesn't have height dysmorphia, they'll definitely get it after coming to this site. You all are so condescending towards short guys, which happen to be yourselves!! Yes, it is a disadvantage, but not a disability!
I have coached a 5'1" friend into landing a 5'7" model before. Is it a challenge? Absolutely. Is it impossible? Absolutely not.
Height helps but it's not a magic pill.
I agree. The internet will amplify your insecurity or make you have one when you weren't even insecure about something in the first place. sites like this make you feel like you have some kind of disability and make you feel even worse.
Quote from: Penguinn on June 29, 2017, 02:01:24 PMI'm sorry but this is BS.
Look at some of your perceptions of the world:The only word to describe that thought is delusional.
There are lots of short guys that attract pretty girls. I was 5'2(albeit in India, it's still really short) and have been hit on by pretty girls. If I wasn't a total introvert with my head up my ass, I would've dated a lot more than I did.
This might be the real problem. I hope this doesn't offend you. This is me pointing you in the right direction. If you're 5'8 and finding it incredibly hard to date, it's either the state of mind or the face. Sure 5'8 isn't anybody's dream height, but a 5'8 guy with other attributes can most definitely score.
So if there's a possibility that height isn't the problem, is LL really going to make you happy? Food for thought.
Here's what I'll say with absolute certainty: Only get LL if you're sure that height is your Achilles heel, your fictional little nemesis. If you're not sure, sort your thoughts out first.
It's different in India and the United States and actually I am not ugly but I am considered ugly because of my height unfortunately. I have honestly been rejected by many girls for being 5'8. It really depends on the area I think. My height is a constant problem and I am way shorter than everyone else. I went to plastic surgery forums asking for advice about my face and they said it's not that big of a problem.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 29, 2017, 06:17:04 AMYou are right.
This site (and the old forum coupled with other stuff on the internet) made me go into some kind of depression a year ago.
You and other people should just read the diaries and get the picture and afterwards leave. This forum is toxic and I highly believe some are fake users sent by third world countries LL doctors who say all this toxic stuff in order to push people into LL without thinking and researching enough
Luckily enough I'm considering LL not because I'm insecure so the comments on this site don't really affect me much. The diaries are really helpful and it's interesting to see people's points of views and insecurities. Those insecurities exist outside of this platform but it's a bad recipe for those susceptible influence.
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I can't speak for 5' 8 to 5' 10, but going from 5' 9 to 6' is almost a world of difference......at least where I'm from where the average is about 170-175 cm. You could extrapolate this into your country's average and decide how much of a difference it could make. But also be aware that if the change in height is too big and you're too old to possibly grow, people you know you before LL will get suspicious. Not everyone is oblivious to LL, and if they are they won't be for long once they start Googling. It is indeed a tough balancing act on choosing how much to lengthen
Quote from: Sibirsky on June 30, 2017, 08:47:04 AMI can't speak for 5' 8 to 5' 10, but going from 5' 9 to 6' is almost a world of difference......at least where I'm from where the average is about 170-175 cm. You could extrapolate this into your country's average and decide how much of a difference it could make. But also be aware that if the change in height is too big and you're too old to possibly grow, people you know you before LL will get suspicious. Not everyone is oblivious to LL, and if they are they won't be for long once they start Googling. It is indeed a tough balancing act on choosing how much to lengthen
I think it is very dependent on the person's personality too. Yes the height helps but whether it is a moderate change or a world of a difference is how it is used. We have to keep this in mind when we're giving advice.
Have you experienced anyone noticing and questioning after LL? Care to share about a particular experience?
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