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Posted on Dec 10, 2021, 2:42 pm
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Hello everyone, I've been researching LL for quite a long time now, and I'm finally at a place in life where I'm able to comfortably get it. My goal is 15 cm--7 cm on tibias and 8 cm on femurs--which equals about 19% of my total bone length. The first procedure I plan on undertaking is on my tibias, where I want to lengthen 7 cm (or 18.3% of my tibia length). As I understand it, lengthening under 20% of your initial bone length is the ideal, but I also am an avid powerlifter and bodybuilder, so full recovery of my lifting ability is of critical importance to me (I also do stuff like martial arts, but I have no ambitions of being anything more than an amateur athlete in these regards).

With all this being said, what would the LL veterans recommend? Is lengthening the tibias by 7 cm, especially with my athletic goals in mind, a bad idea or not? I'm currently planning on doing it with Dr. Solomin in St. Petersberg using LON, for reference. 

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Posted on Dec 10, 2021, 3:43 pm
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For me, 15% of my tibia length would be around 5.7 cm--what do you think?

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Posted on Dec 10, 2021, 8:13 pm
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Quote from: Thehighest on December 10, 2021, 04:23:34 PMHave read Bad things about solomin and kulesh. Read Androides case nerve damage or badwolf also nerve damage


Android did cross lenghtening and external femurs--both of which are very ambitious and difficult to undergo. It doesn't surprise me that he had complications, unfortunately. However, I couldn't find Badwolf's diary; is she from the old forums?

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Posted on Dec 10, 2021, 9:01 pm
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Quote from: Dexter5729 on December 10, 2021, 06:01:39 PMWith your background I think You will do well with LL, similar to mine I did powerlifting and bodybuilding for 6-7 years pre op so I think you kinda get used to the muscle pain, nerve pain when stretching and what not so you'll be fine
Now for tibias , I'm 5'10 pre op keep in mind, when I reached 5cm, it was easy, super super easy. 6-7cm was hard, eventually I pushed to 8cm and 8cm was super super painful.
6 weeks in consolidation now and my gait is 70% back already. So 7cm is Hard but doable


Thanks for the input--especially from a fellow powerlifter and bodybuilder. My tibias are 38.1 cm long, so 15-20% of that would be 5.7 - 7.62 cm; however, I would rather be conservative and do no more than about 18-18.5% of my initial limb length (which is 7 cm). Would you advice stopping the lengthening as soon as your doctor makes the call than any more would require ATL? 

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Posted on Dec 12, 2021, 11:09 pm
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Quote from: Sambollio on December 12, 2021, 08:52:51 PMI’m going to be honest for your sake, I think it’s more likely than not you will experience serious long term, possibly life long, impairment in mobility. I would expect especially as you age things like Achilles tendinitis will be a huge issue. I’d say go for your 15% length. Not trying to be mean but that length is very concerning to me, I want the best for all my fellow wanna be tall boys.

Also, if you do decide to lengthen that amount I would highly recommend going to the most reputable doctor possible, if you are going to push it, do it under the guidance of the greats.

Good luck man!


I’ll consider Dr. Palsy’s option of growing up to 16 cm (two quadrilateral lengthenings staged a year apart) if certain financial things come together.

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Posted on Dec 13, 2021, 4:08 pm
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Quote from: Dexter5729 on December 13, 2021, 12:08:22 PMi'll make a full clip walking, sitting down ass to grass at 2 months in consolidation phase. I should have written a diary but felt lazy to update same thing everyday


I wish you luck, my friend. I don't want to push it with my tibial lengthening, and even 7 cm seems borderline to me, but it works given my starting bone length.

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Posted on Dec 13, 2021, 8:21 pm
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Quote from: Thehighest on December 13, 2021, 05:45:40 PMconsider pili or catagni better you also can add 7cm


Don't they only do externals? I'd want to at least do LON.

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Posted on Dec 14, 2021, 3:56 am
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Quote from: Dexter5729 on December 14, 2021, 01:15:37 AMTks, when are you gonna do the 1st surgery?


It’s likely going to be sometime next year. I’m 25, so I have to get things done ASAP to be the man I want to be while I’m still young.

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Posted on Dec 16, 2021, 2:19 am
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Are there any studies on the risks of chronic knee pain after LON?

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Posted on Jan 20, 2022, 2:16 am
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Quote from: Thehighest on December 16, 2021, 03:37:32 AMhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15891539/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8990026/


Looks like I have to suck it up and do pure externals, then.

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