Hello everyone, I've been researching LL for quite a long time now, and I'm finally at a place in life where I'm able to comfortably get it. My goal is 15 cm--7 cm on tibias and 8 cm on femurs--which equals about 19% of my total bone length. The first procedure I plan on undertaking is on my tibias, where I want to lengthen 7 cm (or 18.3% of my tibia length). As I understand it, lengthening under 20% of your initial bone length is the ideal, but I also am an avid powerlifter and bodybuilder, so full recovery of my lifting ability is of critical importance to me (I also do stuff like martial arts, but I have no ambitions of being anything more than an amateur athlete in these regards).
With all this being said, what would the LL veterans recommend? Is lengthening the tibias by 7 cm, especially with my athletic goals in mind, a bad idea or not? I'm currently planning on doing it with Dr. Solomin in St. Petersberg using LON, for reference.
7 CM on Tibias (LON with Dr. Solomin)--good idea or bad?
On tibias I would not go over 5cm.
For me, 15% of my tibia length would be around 5.7 cm--what do you think?
Have read Bad things about solomin and kulesh. Read Androides case nerve damage or badwolf also nerve damage
Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 10, 2021, 02:42:30 PMHello everyone, I've been researching LL for quite a long time now, and I'm finally at a place in life where I'm able to comfortably get it. My goal is 15 cm--7 cm on tibias and 8 cm on femurs--which equals about 19% of my total bone length. The first procedure I plan on undertaking is on my tibias, where I want to lengthen 7 cm (or 18.3% of my tibia length). As I understand it, lengthening under 20% of your initial bone length is the ideal, but I also am an avid powerlifter and bodybuilder, so full recovery of my lifting ability is of critical importance to me (I also do stuff like martial arts, but I have no ambitions of being anything more than an amateur athlete in these regards).
With all this being said, what would the LL veterans recommend? Is lengthening the tibias by 7 cm, especially with my athletic goals in mind, a bad idea or not? I'm currently planning on doing it with Dr. Solomin in St. Petersberg using LON, for reference.
With your background I think You will do well with LL, similar to mine I did powerlifting and bodybuilding for 6-7 years pre op so I think you kinda get used to the muscle pain, nerve pain when stretching and what not so you'll be fine
Now for tibias , I'm 5'10 pre op keep in mind, when I reached 5cm, it was easy, super super easy. 6-7cm was hard, eventually I pushed to 8cm and 8cm was super super painful.
6 weeks in consolidation now and my gait is 70% back already. So 7cm is Hard but doable
Quote from: Thehighest on December 10, 2021, 04:23:34 PMHave read Bad things about solomin and kulesh. Read Androides case nerve damage or badwolf also nerve damage
Android did cross lenghtening and external femurs--both of which are very ambitious and difficult to undergo. It doesn't surprise me that he had complications, unfortunately. However, I couldn't find Badwolf's diary; is she from the old forums?
Quote from: Dexter5729 on December 10, 2021, 06:01:39 PMWith your background I think You will do well with LL, similar to mine I did powerlifting and bodybuilding for 6-7 years pre op so I think you kinda get used to the muscle pain, nerve pain when stretching and what not so you'll be fine
Now for tibias , I'm 5'10 pre op keep in mind, when I reached 5cm, it was easy, super super easy. 6-7cm was hard, eventually I pushed to 8cm and 8cm was super super painful.
6 weeks in consolidation now and my gait is 70% back already. So 7cm is Hard but doable
Thanks for the input--especially from a fellow powerlifter and bodybuilder. My tibias are 38.1 cm long, so 15-20% of that would be 5.7 - 7.62 cm; however, I would rather be conservative and do no more than about 18-18.5% of my initial limb length (which is 7 cm). Would you advice stopping the lengthening as soon as your doctor makes the call than any more would require ATL?
Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 10, 2021, 09:01:35 PMThanks for the input--especially from a fellow powerlifter and bodybuilder. My tibias are 38.1 cm long, so 15-20% of that would be 5.7 - 7.62 cm; however, I would rather be conservative and do no more than about 18-18.5% of my initial limb length (which is 7 cm). Would you advice stopping the lengthening as soon as your doctor makes the call than any more would require ATL?
''slow and steady win the race'' my distraction was in 6 months long. During that time, I lost my walking ability after 5cm, from 6cm to 8cm I turned the screw as slow as possible, sometimes i did not turn the screw for days, many days I extended the gap only 0.25cm or 0.5cm only. I always stay on top of my legs, period
from 6cm-8cm probly took me like 3 months, I lost my walking ability and gained it back during this period, back and forth, very painful training everyday. I was on bed for weeks on and off and I was on my feet for weeks on and off. Because I did this very slow, at 7cm I could walk unassisted for like a short distance ''on a good day''. At the end, at 8cm, I could still walk with my right leg, my left leg lost it's strength after 7cm. Man, lots of stuff happened, I should of written my diary but in short it's all about standing and walking. I should have stretched more, only thing I regretted
Anyway, as you can see, I've always stayed on top of my legs, always tried to stand, always tried to walk so I knew how my body responded after each inch gained, I knew I would recover and I did and you will too if you do it slow. Many LL guys on this forum paranoid about pre-consolidation, they extend their legs so fk fast like there's no tomorrow which is funny. Pre-consolidation is a complication, it's a problem but some of them talk about it like a good indication of healthy body by fast bone generation. My bone consolidation is perfect and I did this very slow, can't preach enough why ''slow and steady win the race''. If you have control over your legs, you will know when enough is enough and only you know it more than anybody else. I don't like the idea of atl or it band release, for me, it's better to keep the same structure. I would rather go with 5cm rather than 8 with atl release. Given your athletic background, I refuse to believe you will need this extra surgery regardless, you will be fine
Again, 5cm is easy anyone can do 5 maybe ''weak, old lady can't''. All doctor would agree with me
6cm is not hard -7cm is hard but doable
8cm is super super super hard, don't do 8cm if you don't know what you are doing
Agreed - did 8 cm (left femur) , only could manage 0.25 mm (or less) per day for last cm
I’m going to be honest for your sake, I think it’s more likely than not you will experience serious long term, possibly life long, impairment in mobility. I would expect especially as you age things like Achilles tendinitis will be a huge issue. I’d say go for your 15% length. Not trying to be mean but that length is very concerning to me, I want the best for all my fellow wanna be tall boys.
Also, if you do decide to lengthen that amount I would highly recommend going to the most reputable doctor possible, if you are going to push it, do it under the guidance of the greats.
Good luck man!
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