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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:07 am
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 09:21:08 AMNo, 5'6" was short back then. He's visibly shorter in the older films.

It's not short for a man worldwide. But statistically speaking, about 2.5" shorter than average white male. Possibly even worse compared to younger generations.

What I see most people fail to understand is that they often compare their height to the average height of men where they live specifically which is meaningless. Whereas I believe it's a lot more important to compare your height to other men of your race because people will still see you as a whole package. A 5'8" South East Asian guy in the US would be seen as a good height man whereas a 5'8" white guy would be seen as pretty short. And people have higher expectations for black guys in terms of height, because strereotypical black guys are tall and big, thanks to NBA and Heavyweight Boxing. So a 5'8" white guy would have it even harder than a 5'8" white guy.

Even then that doesn't help that much either, always better if you are tall regardless of race of course.

It doesn't mean, but it might. I didn't even say they stunted their growth.

Same here, I also know lots of 6' men from fathers less than 5'7", I have yet to see a 5'7" man from a 6' father.

Maybe means nothing. But at least it's relieving to know that some other people also make mistakes in the past one way or another.

It's still important, but not so regrettable. But it's just an arbitrary number from you. In reality, could be a lot more. We might have undiagnosed HGH deficiency.
Hgh deficiency is completely different from the things you mentioned (smoking etc).
And yes, if someone has it it could stunted a lit his height. That said, the vast majority of short men are simoly short due to genetics, without deficiencies and these. We are completely normal people who have (or had) less than average height. Thats why it called average, because some are taller and some are shorter than that, still completely normal.

And 5.6 for 60s was almost average. In Britain (I dont know exactly about usa but I guess it was almost the same) the average height back then was 5.7, so 5.6 back then was like 5.85 nowadays which is average.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:36 am
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Quote from: O_99 on September 18, 2020, 10:04:30 AMIf you live in Germany and you compare your height to the average 'international', say, 178cm, while the majority of your peers are 180cm+, what's the point?

I've talked about this. You should think yourself as an independent individual instead of a part of a country.

Quote from: O_99 on September 18, 2020, 10:04:30 AMblack?

Right, I've corrected it.

Quote from: Body Builder on September 18, 2020, 10:07:21 AMHgh deficiency is completely different from the things you mentioned (smoking etc).
And yes, if someone has it it could stunted a lit his height. That said, the vast majority of short men are simoly short due to genetics, without deficiencies and these. We are completely normal people who have (or had) less than average height. Thats why it called average, because some are taller and some are shorter than that, still completely normal.

Yeah the vast majority I'm sure. But what I'm saying is that a few of us could be that minority. Because it seems that even scientists and doctors are just as clueless about this. I've asked dozens of doctors, they all just say the basic stuffs, like nutrition, sleep, sports, etc etc. Literally none of them said those factors aren't necessary for height.

Quote from: Body Builder on September 18, 2020, 10:07:21 AMAnd 5.6 for 60s was almost average. In Britain (I dont know exactly about usa but I guess it was almost the same) the average height back then was 5.7, so 5.6 back then was like 5.85 nowadays which is average.

Are you from UK? I thought you're Scandinavian.

Aynway I don't know the average exactly, but from watching older films, the men look just as tall as nowadays.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:39 am
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 10:36:20 AMI've talked about this.

I know.

Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 10:36:20 AMYou should think yourself as an independent individual instead of a part of a country.

Why should I not take into consideration country's average height more seriously (the most, in fact)?
That's where I live.

Your country's average height shouldn't be your only comparison number/reference level, but
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 09:21:08 AMWhat I see most people fail to understand is that they often compare their height to the average height of men where they live specifically which is meaningless.
is not meaningless.


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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:43 am
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Quote from: O_99 on September 18, 2020, 10:39:28 AMI know.

Why should I?

It's not meaningless.

It's pretty meaningless. At 5'10" male is still seen as sexually worthy by women from pretty much anywhere in the world.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:46 am
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 10:43:23 AMIt's pretty meaningless. At 5'10" male is still seen as sxxually worthy by women from pretty much anywhere in the world.

I don't date 'international' women, whatever that's supposed to mean, if I live in Germany.
I have 5'6-5'7 women in front of me, and 6'1 opponents.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:53 am
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Quote from: O_99 on September 18, 2020, 10:46:48 AMI don't date 'international' women, whatever that's supposed to mean, if I live in Germany.

No, you could be travelling to other places. And Germany is a touristic country with lots of immigrants. Other Europeans can just take TGV to go to Germany. Point is you'll still meet everybody in this country.

Quote from: O_99 on September 18, 2020, 10:46:48 AMI have 5'6-5'7 women in front of me, and 6'1 opponents.

Look man, it's always better when you are 6'2". No denying it. At 5'6", I will personally have a lot bigger problems also with 5'7"-5'9" women in front of me, against 5'11'-6" opponents.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 10:57 am
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 10:53:17 AMNo, you could be travelling to other places. And Germany is a touristic country with lots of immigrants. Other Europeans can just take TGV to go to Germany. Point is you'll still meet everybody in this country.

I'd be interested in the majority of the female population, which are 'tall' German women, not immigrants.
I'd be intimitaded by 6ft+ German male peers in the workplace, bars, events, etc, most of the times, not hanging around with 'shorter' English/Italian/whatever tourists.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 11:03 am
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Quote from: O_99 on September 18, 2020, 10:57:12 AMI'd be interested in the majority of the female population, which are 'tall' German women, not immigrants.
I'd be intimitaded by 6ft+ German male peers in the workplace, bars, events, etc, most of the times, not hanging around with 'shorter' English/Italian/whatever tourists.

And the vast majority of these 'tall' German women would still be shorter than 5'10".

I'd be interested in being 6'2", in a perfect world. But what's more important is to be in the safe zone.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 11:17 am
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Bruce wagne how tall are you.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2020, 11:26 am
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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 18, 2020, 11:03:33 AMAnd the vast majority of these 'tall' German women would still be shorter than 5'10".

So what? It would still feel short.

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