Athletic abilities: 100% back is not possible

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Quote from: KrP1 on April 07, 2016, 04:16:04 PMNo. Its not near 95%. I have been an athlete for many years . I dont think that is possible for me to get that condition back.
Look at my diary. What i can do now is walk and go upstairs but not run or jump. Go downstairs without looking weird is not possible yet. This surgery needs a lot of time for recovery.

Real experiences to take into account. People who think otherwise are DELUSIONAL. This guy had a smooth surgery and he didn't recover 100%. What about Unicorn and other patients who got complications? They will suffer the consequences for life. I beg you to consider if you really need this.

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Who gives a fk, unless your livelyhood depends on your shape you'll be fine. Not like anyone does leg day anyway.

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Are u serious? Who gives a fk? You're fking disrespectful to the disgrace of some people here who suffered from very serious complications and can't walk. You dserve to get maimed by one of these butchers.

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It's really dependent on patient, lengthening per segment, athletic ability and flexibility beforehand as well... You can't just make blanket statements like this.

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You can't imagine how many people are regretful of their decision of having LL. They went to first world doctors and were quite cautious, but got complications though. It's the Russian roulette Unicorn talked about in her diary. You can easily be the unlucky one. People who don't accept this are DELUSIONAL.

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Quote from: backrandom on February 10, 2018, 08:27:18 PMReal experiences to take into account. People who think otherwise are DELUSIONAL. This guy had a smooth surgery and he didn't recover 100%. What about Unicorn and other patients who got complications? They will suffer the consequences for life. I beg you to consider if you really need this.

KrP1 did 7cm in the femurs in Sep 2015. He reported in April 2016 that his recovery wasn't near 95% yet. That's not surprising at all. It's barely 2 months beyond the end of the consolidation phase, and 7cm is significantly beyond the 5cm safest limit in the femurs. Also, apparently he was in a wheelchair most of the time, when we know that that best thing for recovery is to walk.

Quote from: backrandom on February 11, 2018, 12:45:05 AMYou can't imagine how many people are regretful of their decision of having LL. They went to first world doctors and were quite cautious, but got complications though. It's the Russian roulette Unicorn talked about in her diary. You can easily be the unlucky one. People who don't accept this are DELUSIONAL.

Unicorn lengthened 2mm/day, when the recommended maximum is 1mm. But yes, there's always a risk. ProgramDude went to Dr. Paley yet had his femur snap out of the blue while walking in the mall. However, he had his rods removed by Dr. Rozbruch, not Dr. Paley who had installed them in the first place. Both are good docs though - there's definitely a lottery aspect.

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Don't blame patients. Unicorn and Krp1 shouldn't be blamed. They did what they were told to do. It was Guichet who told Unicorn to do 2 mm per day. Krp1 was wheelchairbounded because Fitbone isn't weightbearing. Bear in mind that patients who walk too early sometimes break and bend their nails, and then they have to pay extra money to replace them (many cases in Betz's practice).

Also, how would you explain Musicmaker's disastrous outcome and her 10 surgeries? Are you going to blame her too, as you have done with Unicorn and Krp1? People who dare blaming fellow patients deserve having their bad luck.

I have probably met more patients than most of you will meet in your entire life. They come from Betz, Guichet, Monegal and many other European and American doctors and some of them are quite disappointed. This is a dangerous procedure and you can be the unlucky one. If you don't accept this, you're DELUSIONAL.

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I'm not blaming anyone. Indeed, doctors are huge authority figures and most patients just listen to them and do what they're told.

Rather, I'm suggesting that we can learn from the experiences of other patients and increase the chances of success. Some of the things I've learned so far:

• choice of doctor - Birkholtz and Paley have a better safety record than Betz, for example
• pre-op training - don't work out your legs, but your triceps (credit ProgramDude)
• lengthening amount - Purushrottam, PD and DIFM made me decide to only lengthen the femurs 6.5cm, rather than go the full 8cm. Also, if you're too tight, reduce lengthening to 0.75mm/day (credit DIFM)
• pain management - Both PD and DIFM shared invaluable tips about pain medication. I've learned that sometimes you need to take matters into your own hands and demand stronger painkillers or have alternative prescriptions. "the nurses really don't always know best and sometimes you do need to instruct them as per your needs"

It's still a crazy surgery, and as ProgramDude said, You will have at least one HELL day. Or to quote DIFM, "Never felt level 10 physical pain in my life until this surgery. And that includes getting hit by a car.".

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lol if you think guichet is a good doctor. dude is a butcher who doesn't even know how to do a proper osteotomy and his nail is irreversible.

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Note that Paley advises the lengthening should not exceed be 1mm per day, to minimize risk of nerve injury.

Nerve injury can occur with any lengthening surgery but is usually uncommon if the rate of distraction does not exceed 1mm per day and if the amount of lengthening is restricted. Rate control is the most important factor to prevent nerve damage.

Unicorn is a sharp lady, but unfortunately she either wasn't aware of this, or believed Guichet over Paley, or didn't have the strength to stand up to Guichet and not lengthen more than 1mm/day.