Yeah, average height increases by about 1 cm a decade and doesn't really seem to be slowing down in most countries (apart from America, but that's supposed to be because America is kinda fked). I believe the height and social class thing still exists too. Natural selection, living conditions, nutrition, weird hormones in the food, whatever, it all helps doesn't it.
I go to a Russell Group university in the UK. These are the top 20 universities. Typically, I'd say they have the tallest students because you don't really need to be smart to go to them- just rich, with a good private school education (that buys good enough grades for one of these universities, without much work, which means a lot of the students here are also sheltered and thick as crap lol). What I mean by that is that privileged students get here and it's not necessarily a meritorious selection process. My university is also apparently the sportiest university in the UK which I think has a big effect on the tallness of the students. It is really full of private school students, anyway. Apparently Oxford and Cambridge have a lower than average height, mostly to do with the overseas students. Anyway.
When I walk around my city I'd say maybe I'm taller than 20-25% of men if I discount the old guys. (I also think my height neurosis plays some tricks on me here, but I would say that percentage might even be generous- I'm scraping 5'8 but I wonder at these percentiles). But that's around my nice middle class area. If I go to some of the outer areas where everyone's on heroin I feel pretty damn average, maybe a shade short.
Walking around my university.. maybe taller than 10-15%? Maybe I should keep notes 
There are a lot of extremely tall guys too. I often see guys over 6'4. I sometimes feel so short I question whether I actually am 5'8, lol.
A lot of white girls are also as tall or taller than me but there's more variation there. They either all seem to be 5'9 or 5'3. But I'm still legit a "woman" height here. 
I'd say the "average" here begins at 5'10 and is probably around a solid 5'11 and even up to 6'0. 6'3 is still pretty giant though, as it is anywhere else. I still feel short, like in the bottom third, if I wear 1.2 inch lifts in my shoes (without heels though, which a lot of guys wear).
Contrast that to a club I went to last weekend. It was not the creme de la creme of local society, and there weren't any students there either. There were a lot of short guys there, which was interesting. I was probably taller than 40% or even 50% with my 1.2 inch lifts in, which seems about right to me statistically- even a bit tall. I went with a couple of 5'11-6'1 friends who were among the taller/tallest guys. And I really was taller than almost all the women, which was more fun. 
I think the average for white men in our generation, in the UK/USA/Australia/New Zealand is something like 178 cm and I don't think that's a wrong average but I think it really does depend on social class and situation by a large amount. I read in France middle-class professionals and university students are on average an inch taller. 180 cm sounds solidly average at my university, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lower-class person, on average, had an inch or so less than the total average too.
I grew up in a heavily working class area and I don't feel anywhere near as short there.
Quote from: Jack1066 on February 09, 2017, 11:58:06 PMA lot of white girls are also as tall or taller than me but there's more variation there. They either all seem to be 5'9 or 5'3. But I'm still legit a "woman" height here.
God i don't even imagine how some of you would whine about actually being shorter than average woman.
Whatever, why i'm even trying.
Because being shorter than an average woman sucks?
Unless that was autocorrect and you meant "shorter than a woman" in which case nope I don't mind, except both women and men here are really fking tall in general.
BTW, I wasn't really whining, the tears were meant to be a little bit self-deprecating.
Quote from: Jack1066 on February 10, 2017, 12:14:50 AMBecause being shorter than an average woman sucks?
Orly, tell me about it.
And ye, that sad crying face rly nailed your sarcasm.
Edit: whatever you edited.
Sigh. I'm sorry you have it rough, and being 5'5 sucks, but you're pretty much clutching at straws here. I'm saying I feel short in a certain situation. That probably looks really privileged to you when you have to deal with some sort of height neurosis everywhere. But it sounds cringey but it is all relative. For me I'm 100% clear it's attached to other much deeper psychological issues I have, they only manifested themselves in my body image pretty recently. Anyway, I don't really want to carry on along that line of conversation.
It's more about calling yourself someone with "women height". It's almost as bad as all these /r/short 5'8-5'9 guys calling themselves "manlets"
Show yourself some respect.
Fair point. Thanks for pointing it out, I guess.
I don't think I meant it exactly that way, though.
Quote from: Jack1066 on February 09, 2017, 11:58:06 PMI grew up in a heavily working class area and I don't feel anywhere near as short there.
Lol I can't wait to get TF out of my uni. Seriously, I've never felt as short as I have here and I'm pushing 5'6 in shoes. You're noticing what I am as well, I feel like 20-30% of women I see here at my uni are EASILY 5'9-5'10. But when I go out into real society, with people who may only be 10-20 years older, it seems like the average female height quickly drops down to 5'3-5'4.
I seriously feel 2-3 inches shorter than I really am at university. In the real world I see dudes shorter than me all the time. It's such a very, very weird phenomenon.
If you're short stick to the coastal, diverse cities. fk do I love Florida, I feel like the average height in orlandoflorida / Miami is probably around 5'8-5'9. Same with California. But whatever you do, DO not venture into the midwest, stay AWAY from Minnesota! Seriously, stay FAR away!!!!
Seriously whenever I feel best about myself is when I actually go off campus and wonder off into the city. Last time I did I went into a food shop and EVERY woman (8-9 or so) in there was under 5'5.. Come back to campus at night? boom, immediately, a squad of 5'7-5'9 girls in 3 INCH heels walk past me on my way to my dorm. Brutal.
It's just the wealthy white middle/upper class, man. fking leeches
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