Quote from: DanishViking on June 01, 2023, 12:19:58 PM
I dont agree with most of what your're saying. The reason why people die earlier in the US, compared to the rest of the world, is usually cuz of the unhealthy food. The service level and surgeons skill, is usually way superior and has nothing to do with what average age the population die at.
LON isn't even a decent option, because of the level of unsafety it brings. Your almost guranteed an infection because of the pinsites that can attract bacteria. And if the infection can't be cured with antibiotics or doesn't get spotted within the first few weeks, you can end up losing a leg or function for life! You should never cheap out on your legs, cuz you can't buy new ones.
I can understand that the pricetag is annoying, but this surgery is the most invasive cosmetic surgery you can get. And in my opinion, it's smarter to wait as an example 5 years of getting internal lengthening, than waiting 2 years and risking your legs life in the process.
The reason why they don't offer LON in the US isn't because they wouldn't earn much, but because of safety regulations, and the many potiental complications that comes with it. If a company offered such service, they would definitly get sued, but in third world countries that would rarely happen.
Besides many people on this forum who did LON or just tried to save money on the surgery regretted it because of the bad outcome, their were uncomfortable and often gives permanent complications and huge scars.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm (almost all diseases that comes by being overweight, which obviously comes by eating unhealty food)
Here is just a couple of experiences with LON:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=68011.0http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=78387.31http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=71235.0http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79700.0Look, we can all agree internal nails are better, and I think most of us would agree femur is better. That's exactly what I'm doing now - however the reality is there's a lot of people out there who do not and will never have $60k+ to blow on internal nails. It's not a question of just working harder, some people aren't so talented, don't have connections, aren't at the top of their career and never will be, or are just born in a country where salaries aren't that high. For them, it's LON/external tibias or nothing.
Saying 'you can lose a leg' while accurate is also massively overplaying the risks. You can lose a leg doing any LL method, you can die doing any LL method. The overwhelming majority of LON patients either don't get deep bone infections (it's 'only' 10% that will, which I agree is high but that means 90% are fine) or will have them cured with antibiotics. Pin site infections aren't really that important.
LON isn't offered in the US because they wouldn't be competitive with LON options abroad. Why would anyone pay $70k for a US surgeon (assuming it's $100k normally but now we don't have to pay the $30k for Precise, so $70k in total) when it can be done for $20-30k overseas? There's not too many countries outside the US and Europe that offer the internal nails so they can still charge high prices for surgery for those, with LON it'd be a different matter.
Again - I am not debating whether internal nails are better, of course they are. But the choice for many isn't external vs internal, it's external vs nothing.
Every single one of those diaries was from the known butchers LLT in Turkey. I've met patients here who went to Russia for tibias first and they're doing OK. Granted it's a higher risk.
