Being rejected by my own family by persuing LL

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Quote from: stressftw1 on February 15, 2022, 11:29:43 AMAs the title says im struggling and being threatened by my father and my mother by persuing LL.
Im a very depressive person and i dont left my house for nothing, its been 10 years now. I decided myself to go through this procedure but my parents are threatening me, telling i am crazy and that if i one day i persue this I won't be their son anymore, they said they will dishonour me and wont recognize me as their son anymore. They also said they will do anything in their control to stop me of doing it. As a very depressive person, i need their support because i dont have the inner strenght to leave them and do this surgery alone, specially going foward on this surgery. I dont even go outside to buy things anymore. Im just an isolated animal highly depressive. Lately ive been building severe suicidal thoughts, and i keep wondering how much my parents love me to be okay with my current situation and not being supportive with something that could change my life entirely. The money itself is not a problem anymore, i have made alot of money in cryptobusiness and i have the money to persue this. I just wanted their comprehension and their support and thats make me very sad and even more depressive knowing they not only disrespect my decision but became opponents towards my decision.

I know that from outside most people will say that i should say "fk you" to them and persue my dreams on my own, but as a very depressive person i dont have the strenght to be in that position specially because i know the consequences they will make me go through. I feel totally trapped inside the situation im currently living in.

I share some of those issues and I think I can understand part of your suffering. You won't have an easy way out.
Before looking for some idea, may I ask:
How tall are you?
Have you ever been in individual psychiatric and/or psychotherapy? For how long?
Where do you live (country)?
What is your profession (if any) and level of studies?
Have you ever had a girlfriend ?
Have you siblings or other possible supportive persons if you share the "secret"?
Sorry for all these questions but I can't articulate anything useful without.

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Quote from: stressftw1 on February 16, 2022, 05:03:23 AMI created this post because i thought maybe someone had pass through something equal or similar regarding family problems.

First of all, im not a kid, i have 27 years old. Yes i am depressed for 10 years and i dont leave my bedroom, there are literally no reason for me to create this topic to lie about a circunstances that i hate about my life and im not proud of. I cant nor i have the slightest desire to prove you anything. Your reaction and your answer totally lacks empathy and capacity to put yourself on anyone else shoes. And i dont "Finally" got the money, i just said that money is not the problem that impedes me to go through this surgery. I dont know why your reaction came from, specially calling me a lier, which i have absolutely nothing to gain by doing that here, lol.

TBH, I don't think you should throw this question on this forum cuz this forum is not a therapy forum and we cannot map out a good plan for you since you don't offer very much detailed informations and I think Masteryourlife got it right but without good attitudes admittedly.
I am also not given good looks by my mon cuz I am willing to do LL so my plan is to make move at first and make claims afterwards. If they refused me to be their son any more then it's ok I would've known what my parents are actually thinking. So your question is actually not LL-related very much but family-dynamic-related which doesn't belong to this forum technically speaking but yeah since Mod is not denying the legality of your post so I am not commanding you to delete your post or similar, but for real if not a therapist he/she cannot offer a resolution to your question here.
Moreover, if a family therapy cannot cope with your problems then it's more impossible for us to cope with it, not to mention you are not giving enough informations even about your actual age.
I know you don't wanna soldier on with depression and height dysphoria and some of us can relate to you but again we really cannot give good advices, at least in your shoes.
My suggestion is to get a therapy and nothing more even though I am also experiencing my parents' discriminations for me doing LL. In the other words, not everyone's family situations can be juxtaposed so ppl with similar experiences cannot necessarily cooperate with you to work out this issue.
If you don't get enough nest eggs to get this surgery then you should man up to earn money youself even though it will be very hard but that's the only option for you in my eyes. If you do just go for LL and since you are 27 y.o you should've learned that parents are not your everything and at times yeah you should disconnect away from them.

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Quote from: Masteryourlife on February 15, 2022, 12:58:12 PMLately everyone has the money for the surgery but for Visas, for parents, after deep depressions and suicidal thoughts...can't proceed with it lol.
Also everyone seems to make thousands of dollars on cryptos out of nowhere but whatever ,guess no more hard workers with normal jobs who saved to get this procedure , just smart kids ....sooo pathetic !

No parents without psychological issues would react that way to a son depressed 10 years and suicidal.

No suicidal person with 10+ years of depression would let anything get in his way for this surgery IF HE HAD THE MONEY or WAS REALLY DEPRESSED THAT WAY .
Not even a 50/50 % of being crippled so idk if anyone really believes to those stories .

We have all been through those feelings so we are familiar with them and if someone went trough 10 years severly depressed and finally got the money ,NO FU****** WAY SOMEONE ,BESIDE GOD, COULD STOP ANYONE REALLY HAVING HEIGHT DYSPHORIA FROM GETTING THIS SURGERY, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are oversimplifying this surgery and you should not think he is fabricating his story straightforwards simply cuz he cannot have courages to do this surgery.
I was suffering from Depression for once so I know how hard I must get along with my own life when I am really overwhelmed in Depression. But I don't think we can work his problems out either since this forum is not specialized in Cognitive Therapy or something similar.
Everyone has freedrom to share their negative feelings and thoughts about LL and maybe even reluctant to do it for these reasons. This surgery is very complicated not only when it comes to its own procedures and mechanisms but also the prerequisites you must meet up to, so it's not a good move to blame anyone for not relinquishing everything to do this surgery.
But yeah, as a 27 y.o male, family is not always everything that must cling to for a lifetime. It's time to get away from them LOL.

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Quote from: stressftw1 on February 16, 2022, 05:10:37 AMLately we have been through family therapy. But yet, even tho the psychologist is on my "side" once the session ends, they dont accept his opinion and say that hes on my side because of money. I feel they will never truly understand, they refuse to, they extremly prejudiced and conservative to the point that if i were gay they would kick me out of the house, idk how i can change people that thinks like they do. My friends that i have on internet keep saying i should persue my own way and leave them for good, but i have these severe attachment problems which impedes me to stand up for myself and fuLL Forumil my own way out of this dynamic

Then find another one or just work it out on your own with your families. But in all honesty I think your families are very overreactting to your doing LL and very beyond the line. If they cannot accept you as their son anymore just cuz you do LL then just comply to their choices post your surgery and I think they may be just intimidating you not to do this surgery and if they really hate to admit you as a son just dissociate with them but again all that I said are based on my shoes cuz I cannot know what your feelings are about your families since Depression is individually diverse and for not the same reasons. So if I am oversimplifying your problems then I'd say sorry I never mean to. But in my eyes, the only way out is that you keep away from your family and set other things as the source of your mental power or just discuss it with them.

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Quote from: Electronic Paradise on February 16, 2022, 12:39:23 PMYou are oversimplifying this surgery and you should not think he is fabricating his story straightforwards simply cuz he cannot have courages to do this surgery.
I was suffering from Depression for once so I know how hard I must get along with my own life when I am really overwhelmed in Depression. But I don't think we can work his problems out either since this forum is not specialized in Cognitive Therapy or something similar.
Everyone has freedrom to share their negative feelings and thoughts about LL and maybe even reluctant to do it for these reasons. This surgery is very complicated not only when it comes to its own procedures and mechanisms but also the prerequisites you must meet up to, so it's not a good move to blame anyone for not relinquishing everything to do this surgery.
But yeah, as a 27 y.o male, family is not always everything that must cling to for a lifetime. It's time to get away from them LOL.

Oversimplifying?!
So just because I'm honest and says 5'9 instead of 5'2 you think I did not suffer from depression or bad thoughts ?
That my parents jumped from happines when they heard my desire ?
That I did not dream to have an alternative to this surgery because it looked awful and too dangerous ?

I did go trought all that as any other here with severe height dysphoria so I know that it's hard to accept ,first by yourself and second to he accepted by others BUT after 10 years my man there is no way he still wondering !

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Quote from: stressftw1 on February 15, 2022, 11:29:43 AMAs the title says im struggling and being threatened by my father and my mother by persuing LL.
Im a very depressive person and i dont left my house for nothing, its been 10 years now. I decided myself to go through this procedure but my parents are threatening me, telling i am crazy and that if i one day i persue this I won't be their son anymore, they said they will dishonour me and wont recognize me as their son anymore. They also said they will do anything in their control to stop me of doing it. As a very depressive person, i need their support because i dont have the inner strenght to leave them and do this surgery alone, specially going foward on this surgery. I dont even go outside to buy things anymore. Im just an isolated animal highly depressive. Lately ive been building severe suicidal thoughts, and i keep wondering how much my parents love me to be okay with my current situation and not being supportive with something that could change my life entirely. The money itself is not a problem anymore, i have made alot of money in cryptobusiness and i have the money to persue this. I just wanted their comprehension and their support and thats make me very sad and even more depressive knowing they not only disrespect my decision but became opponents towards my decision.

I know that from outside most people will say that i should say "fk you" to them and persue my dreams on my own, but as a very depressive person i dont have the strenght to be in that position specially because i know the consequences they will make me go through. I feel totally trapped inside the situation im currently living in.

Have you ever thought you may have became literally used to suffer and lost courage to get out of your torturing situation?
It happens, in psychology. If you don't react to people's posts or answer questions you have nothing to do in this forum except finding more frustration from those who don't have your problem and try to go ahead with their lives.

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Quote from: zaozari on February 16, 2022, 11:06:55 AMI share some of those issues and I think I can understand part of your suffering. You won't have an easy way out.
Before looking for some idea, may I ask:
How tall are you?
Have you ever been in individual psychiatric and/or psychotherapy? For how long?
Where do you live (country)?
What is your profession (if any) and level of studies?
Have you ever had a girlfriend ?
Have you siblings or other possible supportive persons if you share the "secret"?
Sorry for all these questions but I can't articulate anything useful without.

I am 5,7
I have been through psychiatric and psychoterapy for years
I live in Brazil
I finished highschool and went almost 8 to 9 years without doing anything productive (Ive been pro player of online games but never profited much in it) I was able to profit a bit of money by playing games through this years.. And from 1 year to now, ive been able to profit alot of money by being introduced in Cryptos, im holding this money for more than a year now..
Yes i already had a girlfriend. We dated for 2 years, I rejected her few times at the beggining because she want so bad a relationship with me and i was afraid of letting her getting into my life and hurting me. I didnt leave my house by the time.. She said she could live visiting me and all she want was stay besides me.. After 2 years she ended up cheating on me and discarding me like a piece of  . The relationship itself was the most traumatic experience ive ever had, the time was passing and she started to act cruel, sadistic and abusive.. I never understood why she wanted a serious relationship with someone that was depressive like me. She just targeted me. Wondering now, i think she was a psychopath that had some kind of grudge, until she get tired...
I have no proximity with any people from my family besides my dad and my mom.

I got in contact last year with a member of this forum and he told me some names of doctors that perform LL, im still trying to find more names.

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You sound like you need more therapy, bro. The one you've been having doesn't seem to be working either.

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honestly 5'7 isn't even that short. I got a 5'4 mate and he was able to get a pretty hot gf