DonBones
I definitely agree. I maintain a great rapport with them, but I can only give my honest opinions here. They never mentioned that clicking could be extremely painful. The advertisement said clicking was "painless." Guess they chose a good candidate.
sportiveshort
Chose Betz because Stryde was recalled (90% of the reason). The other 10% is Betzbone's ability to lengthen >8cm. I really have no problems with Dr Betz. Betzbone and its broken screws is what's causing complications for everyone. It's one thing to be a fantastic surgeon. It's another to be a mechanical engineer. There's a good reason why not a single doctor besides Betz have adopted BetzBone.
PerfectBody
Oh fantastic. After how many cm did the pain drop off for you?
Day 24
A major event happened yesterday. After walking for 3 hours (3x my normal distance), I felt exhilarating. All the usual tiny pains in my legs were gone and I felt great. However, the moment I got seated, I had one of the most painful experiences of my life. A solid lump formed on my lower, outer left thigh, a muscle knot. These tend to form after overusing a muscle group. The pain lasted for 4 hours, and I used every pain mitigation trick I had. I considered calling an ambulence. Luckily, the moment I sprayed a hot sprinkler directly against the lump, the pain thawed after 10 minutes.
Muscle knots form when there's insufficient oxygen and blood going through an area. This happens after muscles become super tensed to protect itself from further damage. It can happen for any number of reason. For me, it was overuse. I walked with only my left crutch supporting my right leg. My left leg was likely extremely fatigued. If my experience can help anyone, it's
1) Don't over-stress your body even if it's good to. This applies for walking >2 hours or clicking too much.
2) Use crutches! We don't want others to see us crippled, but crutches really reduce concentrated stress on certain muscle groups and reduce the likihood of the screws breaking.
3) Whenever you have pain, put something hot or spray hot water directly onto the surface. It has yet to fail for any lengthening-related pain for me.
Bilateral Femur Lengthening Dairy: May 2021 with Dr Betz and Betzbone
Just two-three days bro. I hate to say this but we just gotta plow through it. As of right now my left leg sometimes is dramatic but the pain is mostly not there! I definitely feel the tremors, but very little pain (most of the time).
My right leg started clicking yesterday. Holy sh*t just when I thought I got through it, it comes back -_- This is the second day after it started, it hurts a lot, but still less than the day before. Hoping it subsides tomorrow or saturday.
Quote from: PerfectBody on May 27, 2021, 12:10:06 PMJust two-three days bro. I hate to say this but we just gotta plow through it. As of right now my left leg sometimes is dramatic but the pain is mostly not there! I definitely feel the tremors, but very little pain (most of the time).
My right leg started clicking yesterday. Holy sh*t just when I thought I got through it, it comes back -_- This is the second day after it started, it hurts a lot, but still less than the day before. Hoping it subsides tomorrow or saturday.
May I ask which "clicking" you refer to? Your signature suggest you are with Baldu, which means it may not be the Betzbone clicking.
PerfectBody
You got this! Wrap your knees with a heatpad when clicking. The pain comes from stiff muscles/tendons and warmth relaxes them a lot.
DonBones
The 20 degree clicking is fairly common for the mechanical elongation nails. It would make their clicking mechanism similar to Betzbone.
Day 25
The muscle knot recovered, and the lump has grown smaller. Ultrasound noted a collection near the screws, but nothing that warrants immediate attention. Crutches is key to alleviating acute stress on a specific muscle group.
The clicking has become routine. The pain is very similar, which makes it somewhat more bearable (no pain spikes). Keeping it hot can sometimes reduce the pain substaintially, which I will update this diary further with.
On the bright side, I have just asked another orthopedic doctor to look at my post-op x-rays. He said the visual misalignment is nothing to worry about. My bones will union just fine. I feel much more assured now that I got a 2nd opinion.
The doctor also said to keep optimistic, as one's mental state can influence nerve-related discomfort and pain. Clicking in the morning is also important as general movement at work will mask a lot of the minor nerve/muscle discomfort too.
Day 27
Including the 5mm initial gap from the surgery, I should have lengthened 20.76mm. However, a height measurement (always around the same time at night) only showed a 15.7mm increase. I made sure to force my legs together and stood up straight despite the wide-legs during the measurement. My reading around the forum suggests that a 1cm increase in femur length leads to less than 1cm in height increase because the femur is curved. Tibia lengthening on the other hand, is 1 to 1. Out of the 5mm difference, I would probably attribute 2mm to the curviture, 2mm to distorted stance, and 1mm to height variation (spine compression).
What do you guys think explains the significant difference between clicked-height and measured-height? Do we gain more height as our posture/stance recovers after consolidation? Would love your insight!
On the bright side, clicking pain has dropped after 2.2cm. I can now manage the pain without painkillers or hot water. Regardless, I might reduce my clicks to 15 because I become extremely tight and immobile the day after 20 clicks. it's amazing how Dr Betz can recommend 20 clicks everyday until 3cm. Some people must be stretching like gods.
Quote from: SirStretchAlot on May 30, 2021, 10:25:56 AMDay 27
Including the 5mm initial gap from the surgery, I should have lengthened 20.76mm. However, a height measurement (always around the same time at night) only showed a 15.7mm increase. I made sure to force my legs together and stood up straight despite the wide-legs during the measurement. My reading around the forum suggests that a 1cm increase in femur length leads to less than 1cm in height increase because the femur is curved. Tibia lengthening on the other hand, is 1 to 1. Out of the 5mm difference, I would probably attribute 2mm to the curviture, 2mm to distorted stance, and 1mm to height variation (spine compression).
What do you guys think explains the significant difference between clicked-height and measured-height? Do we gain more height as our posture/stance recovers after consolidation? Would love your insight!
On the bright side, clicking pain has dropped after 2.2cm. I can now manage the pain without painkillers or hot water. Regardless, I might reduce my clicks to 15 because I become extremely tight and immobile the day after 20 clicks. it's amazing how Dr Betz can recommend 20 clicks everyday until 3cm. Some people must be stretching like gods.
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Quote from: SirStretchAlot on May 30, 2021, 10:25:56 AMDay 27
Including the 5mm initial gap from the surgery, I should have lengthened 20.76mm. However, a height measurement (always around the same time at night) only showed a 15.7mm increase. I made sure to force my legs together and stood up straight despite the wide-legs during the measurement. My reading around the forum suggests that a 1cm increase in femur length leads to less than 1cm in height increase because the femur is curved. Tibia lengthening on the other hand, is 1 to 1. Out of the 5mm difference, I would probably attribute 2mm to the curviture, 2mm to distorted stance, and 1mm to height variation (spine compression).
What do you guys think explains the significant difference between clicked-height and measured-height? Do we gain more height as our posture/stance recovers after consolidation? Would love your insight!
On the bright side, clicking pain has dropped after 2.2cm. I can now manage the pain without painkillers or hot water. Regardless, I might reduce my clicks to 15 because I become extremely tight and immobile the day after 20 clicks. it's amazing how Dr Betz can recommend 20 clicks everyday until 3cm. Some people must be stretching like gods.
A lot depends on your body.
It may be curvature as you say, in case you have very curved femurs.
Another possible reason is that femurs are oblique. Example: https://i.imgur.com/bjyQJ6V.jpg. If you have X-Rays of our femurs from which you can infer the needed angle, you can use the pythagorean theorem to figure out how much that explains the disparity in length. It's unlikely to be the full 5mm difference, but could be responsible for perhaps 1.5-2mm.
Yet another reason may be the stance as you say or even simple measurement errors.
Quote from: SirStretchAlot on May 30, 2021, 10:25:56 AMDay 27
Including the 5mm initial gap from the surgery, I should have lengthened 20.76mm. However, a height measurement (always around the same time at night) only showed a 15.7mm increase. I made sure to force my legs together and stood up straight despite the wide-legs during the measurement. My reading around the forum suggests that a 1cm increase in femur length leads to less than 1cm in height increase because the femur is curved. Tibia lengthening on the other hand, is 1 to 1. Out of the 5mm difference, I would probably attribute 2mm to the curviture, 2mm to distorted stance, and 1mm to height variation (spine compression).
What do you guys think explains the significant difference between clicked-height and measured-height? Do we gain more height as our posture/stance recovers after consolidation? Would love your insight!
On the bright side, clicking pain has dropped after 2.2cm. I can now manage the pain without painkillers or hot water. Regardless, I might reduce my clicks to 15 because I become extremely tight and immobile the day after 20 clicks. it's amazing how Dr Betz can recommend 20 clicks everyday until 3cm. Some people must be stretching like gods.
You can't stand 100% after lenghtening, and you lose mm due to things like duck ass or wide legs. An user I taltk to via whatsapp told me that, after doing 8 cm, he had gained only 6.8 when finished lengthening. Two weeks after, after recovering posture and all, he has gotten 7.6, so he has only lost like 4 mm due to femur shape
Quote from: DonBones on May 04, 2021, 07:45:29 PMI realise it's expensive, but I'd have hoped for that money it would be at least modern, offering good food and maybe some recreational facilities. Now I know why RB didn't like it 
Based on other physicians that offer cheaper prices in Europe you might find in this situation that you get what you pay for. I can name one European LL specialist not to go to. It could cost more in terms of treatment, outcome and emotional stress. Betz sounds like a very good choice and wished I had tried him. I got lucky with the guy I chose but learned a valuable lesson. Read all the comments and remember this, few people have the impetus or desired to report negative reports. Consider the motivation of the comments or at least how they appear. I believe some unscrupulous docs maintain bogus bloggers to maintain "their good reputations" based on my experience.....I may report in detail at some point in the future.
Quote from: inchesmatter on May 07, 2021, 06:46:39 AMYou will need a lot of calories to support building new bone and soft tissue. When I underwent the surgery, I lost a lot of weight despite being at the KomfortKlinik where they fed me great food snd dessert every day. I hope you are getting lots of nutrition. I only stopped losing weight months later, after clicking stopped. It's very important.
So do you have any caloric recommendations and supplements, ie, Calcium, protein ?
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