Changing your self image after becoming taller and maximizing your life: Part one
Two years after going through LLS I am fully on the way in my journey of changing my self image after becoming taller. Before LLS I felt small, incomplete and not like an actual adult. On the streets, or in the shops or at any social event I was always the small guy. The short one. The little guy. I was always very conscious about always not only being the shortest male, but also often the shortest person. Period. After reaching 177cm (from a starting pint of 165cm), and after being able to walk more and more normal as time progressed this height dysphoria slowly started fading into the past. And more than two years post surgery, it is all but a distant memory. In the beginning I had to recalibrate my brain and senses, and did this by comparing my new height with other adults. All of a sudden (in the context of being short as an adult for almost 20 years) being normal height is kind of a mindfk! But after a few months to maybe half a year of this my brain was recalibrated and now I seldom think about my height when out and about.
At 177cm I am pretty much average in male height now, and much taller than the average women. So on the street, in the shops or at social gatherings I am longer the short guy. I am just a guy, which is pretty awesome. Now, for the first time in my life I actually feel like a real adult. This change came pretty much naturally and I didn't have to work for it. Part one of changing my self image is complete.
Changing your self image after becoming taller and maximising your life: Part two
The reasons stated above, were my primary reasons for doing LLS. It was pretty straight forward, I was short and the only way to over that was becoming taller. The problem was clear, and so was the solution. But in the years leading up to me getting LLS I read many articles, studies and videos about how being short affects your attraction with women. So as time passed, this also become another reason for getting this surgery. Some studies even showed that I may be able to increase my dating pool by as much as 5-6 fold. I mean, I was skeptical about seeing such an improvement. But sure such a scenarios was appealing. I went into the surgery telling my self that I would be satisfied with zero increase in female attraction, because to me it felt too good to be true. But also, it was not the primary reason for doing this, but it would be a nice bonus.
The first year or so after LLS I was pretty much on crutches and didn't attend many social gatherings outside of my nearest friend or family groups. I also didn't drink alcohol for whole year, and really didn't go out until about 16-17 months post surgery. The increase in female attention hit me pretty hard at first. The first two months of me starting to go out I was shocked over the attention I was suddenly getting from the opposite sex. I've written specific threads about this, so for more detailed information please read those. From the age of 12 until I was 35, I had gotten maybe a handful of compliments about my looks from strangers (women), and maybe ten in total not counting serious girlfriends. So I was in no way, shape or form used to getting much, if any attention from women. Going out I would usually be invisible.
All of this suddenly changed over what felt like over night. At first I thought this may just be a coincidence, then I thought it may just be a strange anomaly. But as the weeks went on the attention from women, the looks when out, the compliments from strangers (mostly women) never stopped. As the weeks became months, and months became almost a year, I have had to - like above recalibrate my brain. But this recalibration was and still is much harder. At first I didn't believe the compliments, but now I expect to at least get one once a week, because I've gotten 54 compliments about my looks in the last 46 weeks from strangers. Compliments like you're handsome, good looking, hot, beautiful, attractive and you look like a fk-boy. Some from women in conversation and others randomly on the street in broad daylight, or by passing women in bars and on the dance floor.
Before I never dared approaching a stranger at a bar, and the few times I did I was nervous and probably awkward as hell. After literally having approached 300+ women since last May (getting those compliments made me date to approach more and more women, and the more positive responses I got the more I continued doing it), I now walk up confidently and expect to get a positive response. I have so many positive response from women that it has completely changed the way see and perceive them. Before I though confidence was something you could get through believing in yourself, and that I had it. Now I understand that I was far from confident before, and true confidence comes from experiencing positive after positive encounter with women and other people, over weeks, over months, over years, over decades.
Just in the past 10-11 months I have in many way become a new, different and better person. More confident, more relaxed, more optimistic. I realise that I only have 10-11 months of this under my "belt", and that I still have a far way to go. There is much more improvement to achieve. It has taken me close to a year to realise and start believing that most women actually find me attractive, but some days I still don't believe it. Since last fall I've grown close to a friend of mine who has a long as I can remember been chick magnet. He is the most confident person I've ever met. Because he's gotten compliments from people and strangers since he was a kid, he truly believes it and it is an inherent part of his identity. That is also my goal, to one day truly believe what I now hear on a weekly basis. But undoing 25+ years of my old identity is easier said than done. When the world has treated you a certain way for decades, when most women have ignored you for decades, when most women have rejected you for decades, undoing those experiences takes time, it takes work, it takes energy and it takes will.
I want to maximise this procedure, this experience, this what does feel like a second change at life. It feels like I've won the lottery, but at the same time it feels like a dream that I can wake up from at any moment. Going in to this procedure, I could never have imagined how becoming taller would change my life so much when it comes to women. I truly write down every compliment and positive encounter, because it still is unbelievable. I am now in my late 30s and am now dating three beautiful women in their mid to late 20s. Never ever thought I was gonna do that at this age. Part two of changing my self image will continue into the unforeseen future.
//Stand taller
Changing your self image after becoming taller and maximizing your life:
Great post! Can you post your before and after photos? I recently had a similar experience to you. I went from 165 to 179 and I’m still recovering so I haven’t gotten a chance to experience tall man pretty privilege. I think im fairly successful and handsome so im hoping my experience is similar to yours. Currently im still pretty bitter and black pulled due to decades of being treated like for my short height. Did you have any similar feelings?
Inspiring my friend.
Why is this guy always writing these gay ass long essays on changing muh self image.
You were a turbomanlet now youre average height, yes good for you. 177 isnt even a big deal, its not like you went from 5ft to 6ft.
And can you stop babbling about how some expired late 20s sloots now give you the light of day? Who cares for these old bags anyway ?!
Talk to us when youre getting prime 19 yo and freshman college girls like what 190 cm guys get just by existing on the campus
Quote from: mirneeelnumber1ooye on April 04, 2024, 12:04:43 AMWhy is this guy always writing these gay ass long essays on changing muh self image.
You were a turbomanlet now youre average height, yes good for you. 177 isnt even a big deal, its not like you went from 5ft to 6ft.
And can you stop babbling about how some expired late 20s sloots now give you the light of day? Who cares for these old bags anyway ?!
Talk to us when youre getting prime 19 yo and freshman college girls like what 190 cm guys get just by existing on the campus
Lol dudes is late 30s though. That is ancient to 19 yo girls so it's not like he can be hanging around campus. Guessing he is in 1st world countries, obviously different standards for women in the 3rd world. Assume you are in non Western country?
What’s your vile opposition to him sharing his experience?
What’s your vile opposition to him sharing his experience?
I love reading this. It makes me more confident that I'm making the right decision to get this done next year. Congratulations!
Quote from: mirneeelnumber1ooye on April 04, 2024, 12:04:43 AMWhy is this guy always writing these gay ass long essays on changing muh self image.
You were a turbomanlet now youre average height, yes good for you. 177 isnt even a big deal, its not like you went from 5ft to 6ft.
And can you stop babbling about how some expired late 20s sloots now give you the light of day? Who cares for these old bags anyway ?!
Talk to us when youre getting prime 19 yo and freshman college girls like what 190 cm guys get just by existing on the campus
This guy is writing these long ass essays because no one else is writing about these types of experiences, and most people seem to enjoy them. I wish more people would write about these types of experiences, especially before I did LLS.
5'0" to 6'0"? That's 152cm to 182cm dude, a 30cm increase. That's not even possible. And if you don't believe that 11,5cm increase is huge, then you don' know what you are talking about and me writing about this is all for better!
I am in my late 30s, and a women who is 10-15 years younger than me is pretty much a dream scenario. I am twice the age of a 19 year old, and am not the slightest interested in child like that. Obviously you are much younger than me, and we have different preferences.
You and other people think you have to be 190cm to pull chicks, that is a dangerous believe that just isn't true. And that is yet another reason for me to write about my experiences. I am living proof that at the average 177cm I am not pulling chick like none of my friends who are taller than me. I even pull more chicks than my friend who is over 2m tall. For women height is a hard threshold, you're either below or above. When I was 165cm I was below that threshold for 90/100 women, but now at 177cm I am now above that threshold for 90/100 women. That the difference.
Quote from: Toan291 on April 03, 2024, 08:27:02 PMGreat post! Can you post your before and after photos? I recently had a similar experience to you. I went from 165 to 179 and I’m still recovering so I haven’t gotten a chance to experience tall man pretty privilege. I think im fairly successful and handsome so im hoping my experience is similar to yours. Currently im still pretty bitter and black pulled due to decades of being treated like for my short height. Did you have any similar feelings?
Congratulations man! That is an insane increase! If you are above average in looks, say a 6/10 you're gonna see a very substantial difference in female attraction. If you a 7 or 8/10 you're probably gonna see what I am seeing now, Can't wait to hear your stories after you are recovered enough to go out.
I have never had any high thoughts about my own looks, so it is still hard for me to gauge how attractive I am. But going of the responses and compliments I have gotten since May last year - I would guess that I am very good looking. Maybe an 8/10.
I started watching some black pill content post surgery when I was lengthening and recovering. After going out for almost a year here are my thoughts on the black pill or dating and attraction.
1) The height threshold
Height is very important and is the first hurdle for attracting a women. From my experiences it the first hard threshold you as a man have to pass. You are either tall enough or not. Where this hard threshold lies is hard to tell, and will also differ from country to country, and even from women to women. I can confidently say that here in northern Europe 177cm seems to be above that threshold for most women. I can also confidently say that 165cm would be below that threshold for most women here. Looks don't matter if you don't pass this first hurdle.
2) The looks threshold
After you pass the height threshold, the next hurdle is the looks threshold. But remember, this threshold doesn't matter if you pass the height threshold. So every thing I write abut this assumes you are above that first hurdle. I don't think this threshold is as hard as the one above. What I mean is that, this is more a more fluid threshold. For example, say you're a 6/10 in looks - you'll certainly attract a few women. If you're a 7/10 then you'll attract even more, and if you're an 8 or 9/10 almost all women will find you attractive. I still think an average looking dude (5/10) that is say 177cm will do much better with women than a good looking dude (8/10) that is short at say 165cm. Most men are average, so for most men thinking about LLS - the close you can get to average height the better you will do with women.
I also think there is some merit to average looking men who are taller than average. I think this may give you an advantage compared to other average looking me who are average height with some women. But I don't think an 5/10 male who is say 190cm tall will be close to as attractive as a 177cm tall male who is 8/10. I think women will chose the average height good looking male 99/100 times.
Looks is a very powerful thing, and some times it can also get too powerful. Yes I have experienced many advantages in approaching women, where most women are open to conversation and even flirting, giving me their numbers, Snap, IG, going on dates and having sex etc. I have also experienced women being flustered, nervous, awkward and weird around me. This has happened several times - I share several long stares with a women multiple times in a bar, club or dance floor. She is obviously attracted to me, so I walk over and say hi. Then the women either just says nothing an ignores me or she walks away. Women will often show clear signs or attraction, but will find you too attractive in the same way as if a really hot chick walked up to an average dude. It would activate is flight or fight response. Believe me, I have acted this was many times before in front of hot women. And women do the same thing.
Last September I met up with this girl at an after party, I had met her prior and she actually gave me her number. At this after party we sat down on the couch and she acted super weird and didn't even look at me when talking. After I while I said "what's up, why are you acting so weird and not even looking at me". She replied "it's because I think you very handsome".
3) Game and confidence
Once you pass hurdle 1 and 2, this is where game and confidence comes into play. Like hurdle number 2, this is even more fluid. Being tall enough and handsome will for many women be enough. I've met women where I passed threshold 1 and 2 with flying colours and it was done. They were into me. A few months back I met this girl with a boy friend who was so into me she snuck away from her boyfriend when out just to meet me. Other times though, me not having good enough game or confidence has made it or broke it. For average to above average women, I think height and looks are more than enough. The times I gotten compliments on the streets or on the dance floor has ofter been from average og above average women. Aggressive sexual offers have also been from the same type of women.
For me, where I have failed with women post LLS has been with really attractive and hot women, like with 8s and 9s. With these women I am the who gets flustered, nervous and where I lose my "cool". I've been approached by 8s and 9s in bars and clubs where it has triggered my flight or fight response. So for me, personally, this is where I have to keep working on my self. And truly embracing my new reality.
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