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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:31 am
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Quote from: hanshi on February 05, 2016, 09:43:23 PMMaybe i didn't make myself clear enough. A good doctor always tries to make sick people healthy again. But looking at cosmetic LL and it's extremely high complication rates it is inevitable for a doctor not to transform from time to time a completely healthy person into a cripple. In order to do this, the doctor has to be ruthless. Think about it. A doctor who specializes in cosmetic LL, i.e. who hardly does anything else actually has to be a sociopath.
The sentence 'complications may arise' is misleading since it still doesn't mention the high probabilities because they are highly relevant. When you enter an airplane you know it might crash, however you know the probability is very low. And none of those drs. specialized in cosmetic LL will tell you the truth about your odds, let alone long-term consequences.


Hanshi master of masters. You're right. Ruthless is the good word for describing these doctors who don't care about patients but about our money. They underplay risks just to get more customers. LL is a gamble. Most non cosmetic doctors and some cosmetic doctors (Guichet, for example) admit it. Some others don't and deceive you. Unfortunately patients are delusional and don't see the truth until they are in.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:35 am
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Quote from: LLuser1 on February 06, 2016, 02:31:41 AMHanshi master of masters. You're right. Ruthless is the good word for describing these doctors who don't care about patients but about our money. They underplay risks just to get more customers. LL is a gamble. Most non cosmetic doctors and some cosmetic doctors (Guichet, for example) admit it. Some others don't and deceive you. Unfortunately patients are delusional and don't see the truth until they are in.


  Who are the doctors of europe and north america which you find ruthless (Besides Monegal)?

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:40 am
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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 06, 2016, 02:35:03 AM  Who are the doctors of europe and north america which you find ruthless (Besides Monegal)?


All of the doctors in Europe and USA are ruthless. If I read this thread before I went under the knife, I would've never done LL.

LL is a dangerous surgery, and all the doctors are dishonest salesmen. Not to mention they are usually bad people and switched from a honest career treating real trauma cases to making cold hard cash from our insecurities.

Final point: LL is the riskiest cosmetic surgery and doctors providing said services are almost always shady. Do not do LL.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:41 am
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I guess my son was lucky.  Gained 3 inches, zero complications.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:46 am
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Quote from: PatientZero on February 06, 2016, 02:40:23 AMAll of the doctors in Europe and USA are ruthless. If I read this thread before I went under the knife, I would've never done LL.

LL is a dangerous surgery, and all the doctors are dishonest salesmen. Not to mention they are usually bad people and switched from a honest career treating real trauma cases to making cold hard cash from our insecurities.

Final point: LL is the riskiest cosmetic surgery and doctors providing said services are almost always shady. Do not do LL.


 With who did you do LL? And why would this procedure (that is being regularly done on people with limb disperancies) be that much of a big deal? Yeah it is a big deal but every surgery is.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:52 am
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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 06, 2016, 02:35:03 AM  Who are the doctors of europe and north america which you find ruthless (Besides Monegal)?


Betz is a good example. Ruthless and deceitful. However, Monegal is worse, IMO. Full of lies.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 2:56 am
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Quote from: PatientZero on February 06, 2016, 02:40:23 AMAll of the doctors in Europe and USA are ruthless. If I read this thread before I went under the knife, I would've never done LL.

LL is a dangerous surgery, and all the doctors are dishonest salesmen. Not to mention they are usually bad people and switched from a honest career treating real trauma cases to making cold hard cash from our insecurities.

Final point: LL is the riskiest cosmetic surgery and doctors providing said services are almost always shady. Do not do LL.


All of them are shady, some of them very shady and ruthless, but some are worse than others. Paley tells the truth and Guichet shows statistical data to prospective patients. Catagni is good too. I've been told so at least. I never visited him.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 3:00 am
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Time to close the forum guys!

Glad I got my nails in before I found out all these bad things about doctors.  Looks like I made the cut, pun intended. Choosing A Doctor - Safety & Budget (Merged)

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 3:22 am
#29

Yeah, I agree.  This whole LL thing was a big waste of time and money. 

I'll just stick to buying scratch tickets from now on.  No risk of major complications there, and the guy selling them behind the counter seems like a pretty honest guy.

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Posted on Feb 6, 2016, 4:12 am
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I agree. Don't do LL!

The whole LL industry is shadier than Obama's armpits. See those unfinished diaries? They're prolly all dead by now.

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