this forum has become basically useless
unless one is posting about lengthening 15 cm, or some other crazy procedure, it's impossible to get a discussion going
Quote from: kusop on August 02, 2015, 08:11:02 PMwhoever runs this forum need to clamp down on this kind of crap thread along with the other silicon implants in your heels.. sickening..
if you want to look like a man.. hit the gym ffs. it will give you the back of a man and greater shoulder width
I don't the hatred in this thread, we're all insecure about something and mine happens to he my shoulders and yours is your height, I don't belittle you and you shouldn't belittle anyone else who wants to alter their appearance, I have stated before that it's a proven fact that weightlifting does not make your skeleton bigger, people with small frames like me can't build that much muscle in the first place cause our skeleton can't support that much muscle, having narrow shoulders, or a small skeleton is absolute bull
clavicle lengthening is a joke. leg lengthening is not a joke.
the 2 are not comparable. different patients have different reasons, some face external discrimination from society, some face internal discrimination.
if external discrimination if the only reason for wanting leg lengthening then that means the person is not insecure.
clavicle lengthening which no orthopedic surgeon will perform is only internal discrimination, internal discrimination means its a mental condition internally only inside your head. and the outside world does not discriminate against you.
stop your rubbish of trying to equate all cosmetic procedures to equally valid to leg lengthening simply because the share a common word "cosmetic".
this is stupid argument.
your clavicle lengthening could be compared to someone who is insecure abut having long toes, and so he wants to break all his toes and shorten them. it does nothing for the external discrimination because there is none its all In your head. where as for leg lengthening there is a very real external discrimination and is scientifically documented with actual research.
if a 7 foot tall man wants leg lengthening, he would have no external discrimination and so we would also tell him he is as mental as you.
you have no grasp on the concept of similarity for these 2 procedures. it is all dependent on whether the person receives internal or external discrimination or both. and this is largely due to the starting height of the leg lengthener, and the average height of his area.
Quote from: MRbones on August 03, 2015, 02:36:30 PMclavicle lengthening is a joke. leg lengthening is not a joke.
the 2 are not comparable. different patients have different reasons, some face external discrimination from society, some face internal discrimination.
if external discrimination if the only reason for wanting leg lengthening then that means the person is not insecure.
clavicle lengthening which no orthopedic surgeon will perform is only internal discrimination, internal discrimination means its a mental condition internally only inside your head. and the outside world does not discriminate against you.
stop your rubbish of trying to equate all cosmetic procedures to equally valid to leg lengthening simply because the share a common word "cosmetic".
this is stupid argument.
your clavicle lengthening could be compared to someone who is insecure abut having long toes, and so he wants to break all his toes and shorten them. it does nothing for the external discrimination because there is none its all In your head. where as for leg lengthening there is a very real external discrimination and is scientifically documented with actual research.
if a 7 foot tall man wants leg lengthening, he would have no external discrimination and so we would also tell him he is as mental as you.
you have no grasp on the concept of similarity for these 2 procedures. it is all dependent on whether the person receives internal or external discrimination or both. and this is largely due to the starting height of the leg lengthener, and the average height of his area.
Stop trying to validate your insecurity, I think you're the one who is somewhat mental, I want my clavicle lengthened for a number of reasons 1. A bigger frame makes it easier for one to stand up straight 2. A bigger skeletal frame allows you to carry more muscle than someone with a smaller frame 3. Narrow shoulders make you look like a little kid 4. Cosmetic purposes
You're insecure about your height no matter what you say, I'm insecure about my skeletal frame size, internal discrimination? Can you even grasp what that even means? Spending thousands of dollars to break your leg for a few inches is not internal discrimination? If you judge someone based on their height you're just as shallow as they are, I don't judge people on their height or their shoulder width, I want this surgery done for ME. You're probably one of those people who will get LL then judge someone for being the height you used to be, please check yourself. You claim your problem is external discrimination from others; give me a break lol do people come up to you with a tape measure and see how tall you are? I'm not judging you for wanting LL and you shouldn't be judging me for his, clavicle lengthening has been done before and has been very successful, I reccommend you don't comment on if it's impossible if you're not a surgeon
actually you DO judge men on there height, everyone does, it is biological, we can't help it.
no one has any bias on men based on their shoulder width, unless it is of course with something far outside the norm.
Quote from: microman on August 03, 2015, 02:54:13 PMactually you DO judge men on there height, everyone does, it is biological, we can't help it.
no one has any bias on men based on their shoulder width, unless it is of course with something far outside the norm.
there are shallow people in this world I agree and I know it sucks, but having a small frame fking sucks and people including me have gotten judged for it.
I don't think you have the mental capacity to understand the difference between internal and external discrimination.
I already have had 2 ll surgeries. I am 6"0 tall. and no I was amazing before I became taller. I had already achieved everything in life and everyone respected me and I look like a model.
you on the other hand are 6"1 and you think your a looser and you equate yourself to being better off than your current condition if you were 5"5, you think of yourself as more pathetic than a 5"5 man with large clavicles. that is about as internally insecure as a person can get.
not everyone who gets LL is insecure. a lot of people are but not everyone. in my case I am very competitive and successful.
you need to see a psychiatrist for your insecurities. no one cares about your clavicles. its all in your head.
"I look like a model" lol so you grew 6 inches and now you're cky as fk? Exactly what I mean, you're just a shallow person in general I really didn't mean I would want to be be 5'5 with larger shoulders, but id give up a few inches to have a bigger skeletal frame
Quoteactually you DO judge men on there height, everyone does, it is biological, we can't help it.
no one has any bias on men based on their shoulder width, unless it is of course with something far outside the norm
good point microman, another aspect is the fact that height is an evolutionary genetic trait. and that is why everyone notices it.
my "look like a model" quote was reference to my body before leg lengthening. namely that I had an 8 pack and a lot of muscles.
you mistake confidence for arrogance incorrectly. I am amazing so naturally I would be confident.
this is foreign to you because you are not confident, you hate yourself. stop hating yourself and become confident. only then can you be happy clavyboy.
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