I know this is gonna sound crazy but how about keeping the tibia/femur ratio the same and get 5 cm gain in total.. for example you have 30 cm femur and 40 cm tibia and if u grow 2.85 cm in femur and 3.15 cm tibia then you will keep the 3/4 ratio of your tibia/femur which keeps your lower body ratio the same.
Quote from: nikolas86 on April 11, 2017, 02:58:24 AMI know this is gonna sound crazy but how about keeping the tibia/femur ratio the same and get 5 cm gain in total.. for example you have 30 cm femur and 40 cm tibia and if u grow 2.85 cm in femur and 3.15 cm tibia then you will keep the 3/4 ratio of your tibia/femur which keeps your lower body ratio the same.
I meant 2.15 femur, 2.85 tibia 
That's good if you're a millionaire and can afford two surgeries for those small amounts.
Quote from: bander72 on April 11, 2017, 04:38:58 AMThat's good if you're a millionaire and can afford two surgeries for those small amounts.
I don't think you should be a millionaire, there are people who did 2 surgeries in this form. Of course it will cost more money and time to you but it is worth it.. to reduce the risks to minimum(soft tissue issues, body mechanics, body balance etc..)
Quote from: nikolas86 on April 11, 2017, 02:58:24 AMI know this is gonna sound crazy but how about keeping the tibia/femur ratio the same and get 5 cm gain in total.. for example you have 30 cm femur and 40 cm tibia and if u grow 2.85 cm in femur and 3.15 cm tibia then you will keep the 3/4 ratio of your tibia/femur which keeps your lower body ratio the same.
It doesn't sound crazy at all, in fact, I believe this to be the most optimal method of maintaining biomechanical ratio within the 'normal range' while not lengthening either segment excessively. Beyond the initial risks of 2 surgeries, lengthening both segments to a specific amount will always be better than solely lengthening one segment to the same amount. Unfortunately, most people do not have the finances nor want to undergo 2 surgeries leading to excessive lengthening of one segment, throwing their ratio out of the 'normal range'.
Also, in case you weren't aware the femur is the longest bone in the body and the tibia is shorter so your theoretical amounts would be correct if switched around, this is why it's almost always better to lengthen the femur if you choose to only lengthen one segment.
Quote from: nikolas86 on April 11, 2017, 12:42:07 PMI don't think you should be a millionaire, there are people who did 2 surgeries in this form. Of course it will cost more money and time to you but it is worth it.. to reduce the risks to minimum(soft tissue issues, body mechanics, body balance etc..)
Break your legs twice for 5 cm.....Im one of the conservative ones in the forum and even I think its ridiculous. At least if you could get back to 100% before the surgery but we know thay aint possible so who would really do that. For two surgerys im gonna go for 4 inches minimum.
Quote from: bander72 on March 29, 2017, 06:35:50 AMI heard Paley had some people that did a inch but too bad they don't visit the forum.
paying 100,000 for a inch that's crazy. Could've atleast gone with birkholtz or something
Anyone who plans to do less than 5cm with one LL should stop thinking about LL and continue his life with some added lifts.
1 inch is so minor that is hardly recognizable and it is completely insane to break your legs for that, no matter how much money you have.
After all the ones who really need LL to improve their lives know that so small amounts are ridiculous and won't change anything so they go for at least 2 inches.
Everything less is only a loss of money, time and still has many risks without a real benefit.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 11, 2017, 04:13:14 PMAnyone who plans to do less than 5cm with one LL should stop thinking about LL and continue his life with some added lifts.
1 inch is so minor that is hardly recognizable and it is completely insane to break your legs for that, no matter how much money you have.
After all the ones who really need LL to improve their lives know that so small amounts are ridiculous and won't change anything so they go for at least 2 inches.
Everything less is only a loss of money, time and still has many risks without a real benefit.
2 inches = 5.08 cm
What we are talking about here is 5cm( 0.08 cm lesser than 2")
I think 2 inches makes huge difference if you are 5'11"
It makes you 6'1"
Quote from: bander72 on April 11, 2017, 03:15:58 PMBreak your legs twice for 5 cm.....Im one of the conservative ones in the forum and even I think its ridiculous. At least if you could get back to 100% before the surgery but we know thay aint possible so who would really do that. For two surgerys im gonna go for 4 inches minimum.
Electing to have your legs surgically sawed and broken in half and a rod reamed through the centre for cosmetic lengthening of any amount is ridiculous. While I agree that one should aim to gain an amount which they would consider worthwhile if they are considering undergoing such a traumatic, time consuming, expensive and extreme procedure, but that varies largely from person to person, therefore I think it would be wise to not conflate what you deem worthwhile with what someone else may perceive as such. The best amount is the lowest you would be content with.
Now, addressing your other point, if the absolute minimum you wish to lengthen is 4 inches/10.16CM, then you aren't conservative in your lengthening, even if some people choose to lengthen way beyond that. 5/6CM on the tibias/femurs respectively is usually the maximum recommended for a relatively safe and complication free and 4 inches is at that very upper limit.
Quote from: 0184946 on April 11, 2017, 03:41:25 PMpaying 100,000 for a inch that's crazy. Could've atleast gone with birkholtz or something
You do realize that peoples financial situations aren't all the same and the price of the procedure is relative to the person deciding to undergo it? $100,000 to one person may be a lot, to another, absolutely nothing. If someone has the finances and is willing to spend it then why wouldn't they choose to go with one of the most accomplished orthopedic surgeons in the world who is likely in the same country to achieve their goals? I don't believe amount lengthened should dictate surgeon choice, regardless of amount, one should choose the surgeon they feel most comfortable with.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 11, 2017, 04:13:14 PMAnyone who plans to do less than 5cm with one LL should stop thinking about LL and continue his life with some added lifts.
1 inch is so minor that is hardly recognizable and it is completely insane to break your legs for that, no matter how much money you have.
After all the ones who really need LL to improve their lives know that so small amounts are ridiculous and won't change anything so they go for at least 2 inches.
Everything less is only a loss of money, time and still has many risks without a real benefit.
Anyone considering limb lengthening should stop thinking about limb lengthening and continue their life with lifts. But as you know, this isn't always the case.
I'd argue that while I believe an inch on either segment, resulting in 2 inches of height should be the very least someone should aim for after such an expensive, time consuming, painful and dangerous procedure, I disagree that it is 'minor and hardly recognizable'. 2 inches is still a substantial amount and if that is somebody's goal for whatever reason, nobody has the right to judge and criticize because their goal and priorities are different.
As I wrote earlier, electing to have your legs surgically sawed and broken in half and a rod reamed through the center for cosmetic lengthening of any amount is insane whether it's for an inch or ten. We could argue until the end of time concerning what specific amount would make the procedure 'worth it' but at the end, it all comes down to what the person considering the procedure deems acceptable and worthwhile. Your goals won't be the same as someone else's, that doesn't mean either of your goals are 'right' or 'wrong'.
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