Considering 4 cm femur, what to expect?

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Quote from: Madmax_01 on January 02, 2016, 11:52:03 PMI am also considering surgery with Dr. Guichet, and I would like to start stretching as soon as possible. So, does anyone has anyone worked out a good plan for this?
I am also undecided about the issue of training my thighs, because I have read on the forum, that too much muscle mass over your femur bones might not be good for the lenghtening process. Just to give you a quick fact check: I'm 5'4'', 138 lbs, and I can easily do 100 lbs on the leg press, and/or 50 lbs on the leg extension machine (for femur muscles).
Would be very glad if you could give me feedback on that. Thank you very much in advance!

PS: Wish you all the best for 2016!

I think that Guichet has a different method than other doctors since he actually wants the patient to have strong legs prior to the surgery but that´s just what I´ve heard, I may be wrong.
45kg for leg press is really not much though. My upper limit is 320-340ks´s on the inclined leg press and a bit over 200kg´s on the flat leg press and I´m not a buffed guy by any means. You should at least be able to do 140kgs on the flat leg press if you work out regularly.

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Quote from: Alittletooshort on January 03, 2016, 09:34:18 PM45kg for leg press is really not much though. My upper limit is 320-340ks´s on the inclined leg press and a bit over 200kg´s on the flat leg press and I´m not a buffed guy by any means. You should at least be able to do 140kgs on the flat leg press if you work out regularly.

Quote from: aspirant185 on January 03, 2016, 06:53:05 PM@Madmax,

To be honest, 100 lbs (45kg) is not impressive. I ve seen regular (not bodybuilding) girls doing that exercise with 50kg. ShyShy reported 200lbs (90kg) AFTER the surgery. You have a lot to work on Good luck

Got back from the gym, tried the leg press with 150 lbs and could barely push it. (by the way: The machine has a 240 lbs limit). It is going to be a heavy road.
Thanks for the reality check, guys! 

PS: 320-340 kg's sounds like a lot by the way. I don't even think that the inclined leg press in our gym could handle such amounts. Are you sure you ment kg's ?

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Quote from: Alittletooshort on January 03, 2016, 09:34:18 PM45kg for leg press is really not much though. My upper limit is 320-340ks´s on the inclined leg press and a bit over 200kg´s on the flat leg press and I´m not a buffed guy by any means. You should at least be able to do 140kgs on the flat leg press if you work out regularly.

Quote from: aspirant185 on January 03, 2016, 06:53:05 PM@Madmax,

To be honest, 100 lbs (45kg) is not impressive. I ve seen regular (not bodybuilding) girls doing that exercise with 50kg. ShyShy reported 200lbs (90kg) AFTER the surgery. You have a lot to work on Good luck

Got back from the gym, tried the leg press with 150 lbs and could barely push it. (by the way: The machine has a 240 lbs limit). It is going to be a heavy road.
Thanks for the reality check, guys! 

PS: 320-340 kg's sounds like a lot by the way. I don't even think that the inclined leg press in our gym could handle such amounts. Are you sure you ment kg's ?

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Quote from: Madmax_01 on January 05, 2016, 11:27:22 PMGot back from the gym, tried the leg press with 150 lbs and could barely push it. (by the way: The machine has a 240 lbs limit). It is going to be a heavy road.
Thanks for the reality check, guys! 

PS: 320-340 kg's sounds like a lot by the way. I don't even think that the inclined leg press in our gym could handle such amounts. Are you sure you ment kg's ?

Leg press machines should be able to fit like 7-10 25kg plates on either side.. My gym does anyway.. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the leg extension? ... Or maybe the hack squat (those are difficult.

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Quote from: Madmax_01 on January 05, 2016, 11:27:22 PMGot back from the gym, tried the leg press with 150 lbs and could barely push it. (by the way: The machine has a 240 lbs limit). It is going to be a heavy road.
Thanks for the reality check, guys! 

PS: 320-340 kg's sounds like a lot by the way. I don't even think that the inclined leg press in our gym could handle such amounts. Are you sure you ment kg's ?

I´m 100% sure (about the wheights and the kg´s), I don´t know if we are talking about the same machine but it looks exactly like the ones you get when googeling "inclined leg press". A lot of guys can do much more than me on this machine, and I´m sure that the machine can handle this wheight without collapsing 
The flat leg press machine in my gym has a wheight limit of 260kg´s. 240lbs doesn´t seem like a decent machine imo because all of my friends who work out can do more than that.
My max squat wheight is about 130-135kg´s (including the bar) btw, I can only go ass to grass with about 100kg´s  though.

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Quote from: Alittletooshort on January 05, 2016, 11:50:46 PMI´m 100% sure (about the wheights and the kg´s), I don´t know if we are talking about the same machine but it looks exactly like the ones you get when googeling "inclined leg press". A lot of guys can do much more than me on this machine, and I´m sure that the machine can handle this wheight without collapsing 
The flat leg press machine in my gym has a wheight limit of 260kg´s. 240lbs doesn´t seem like a decent machine imo because all of my friends who work out can do more than that.
My max squat wheight is about 130-135kg´s (including the bar) btw, I can only go ass to grass with about 100kg´s  though.

I wasn't questioning you ALTS. I think Madmax might have his machines mixed up.

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I don't know what's the benefit of having strong and muscular legs before and during leg lengthening. I'd say flexibility is the most important thing and that's compromised if you work out your legs with weight training.

yes guichet says that....but three doctors I have talked to (Monegal, Birkholtz, Betz) plus Betz's PT say it's not good to have very muscular legs. The more muscle you have the harder it's to stretch.

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No, 320-340 kg is a lot but definitely doable for somebody who trains a lot and perhaps takes supplements such as protein shakes and creatin. I know a guy from my gym who placed 520 kg weights in the maschine and there was no place for more weights so he asked a girl to sit over the weights to add 40-50 kg more This guy was on steroids btw but 320-40 is possible.

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Quote from: axelf on January 05, 2016, 11:56:04 PMI don't know what's the benefit of having strong and muscular legs before and during leg lengthening. I'd say flexibility is the most important thing and that's compromised if you work out your legs with weight training.

yes guichet says that....but three doctors I have talked to (Monegal, Birkholtz, Betz) plus Betz's PT say it's not good to have very muscular legs. The more muscle you have the harder it's to stretch.

I don't know if you go to the gym.. But have you ever missed the gym for several weeks, but then go back and have a ripper workout? I mean you really smash yourself? After just a couple of weeks your muscles become lazy and sensitised to stress.. Let's say you worked your legs. 24-48 hours later you will barely be able to walk. I mean, you'll be in so much pain that you'll struggle to squat onto the toilet.

If you maintain your strength, endurance AND flexibility, your muscles will become used to the stress. They will be desensitised from the trauma.. If you go into your surgery with your legs in peak condition, they'll be less susceptible to pain because they're already put under constant stress. Why do you think that Guichet's patients are able to lengthen so fast compared to patients of other doctors.. If you have a regular Joe going into surgery without the proper preparation, they're going to experience more pain, more issues with stretching of the soft tissues and have a much harder and longer journey in general.

It makes perfect, logical sense why you should prepare for the surgery.

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Quote from: aspirant185 on January 06, 2016, 12:08:48 AMNo, 320-340 kg is a lot but definitely doable for somebody who trains a lot and perhaps takes supplements such as protein shakes and creatin. I know a guy from my gym who placed 520 kg weights in the maschine and there was no place for more weights so he asked a girl to sit over the weights to add 40-50 kg more This guy was on steroids btw but 320-40 is possible.

Good guess, I started taking both after deciding to gain some mass (went from 66 to 76kg´s)  . Gaining some mass is definitely not as helpful as LL but it improves your situation when feeling short. 
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I meant lean mass ofc, getting fat won´t help I guess