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Posted on Dec 1, 2017, 5:07 am
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Alright guys today is the day. I arrived in st petersburg russia nov 28 had comsultation with dr. Kulesh and dr solomon. Both very experienced doctors who answered all my Qs and who i consider genually caring people as theyve been helping me get situated here and helping me with any needs i may need. I am 26 years young. 165cm with a wingspan of 170cm. Ill be doing cross - lengthening in 2 steps. First step will be right upper femur + left lower limb. LON will be with femur and traditional illizorav with lower leg. Once lengthening is complete i will remove femur frame and lock in the nail and wait for bones to consolodate before starting on the next step which will be left femur + right lower limb. I will be lengthening back in my hometown in the united states for personal reasons. Personally i think with the help of supporting family one can get thru such an event like this better instead of being in a foreign country where you cant even order something to eat let alone explain your needs to the nurses. I am waiting to go into surgery now. Hopefully everything goes great! A bit nervous but so glad im finally going thru with this. Ill keep updating as soon as i can.
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Posted on Dec 1, 2017, 7:08 am
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Hey man i wish u all the best. I'll be following your diary and will wait for the update. which clinic you've chosen municipal or medem? tc.
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Posted on Dec 1, 2017, 10:47 am
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Wishing the very best mate! Having a good doctor on your side is key.
What is your height goal?

Take care!
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Posted on Dec 1, 2017, 12:13 pm
#4
Cross lengthening is maybe the worst idea for LL. Especially if it comes with external femurs.

It is no wonder why they do it in Russia and other third world countries as no respectable doctor would do this.
But it is stupid for people to think that they'll have faster rehabilitation with that  . The rehabilitation will be much longer than doing tibias and then wait 6 months to do femurs than doing cross lateral. Also the rehabilitation will never be full.

The last LLer that did cross lateral LL on the old forum was crippled with knee rom less than 20-30 degrees and I have never heard a good case with cross lateral.
I don't know why some people are willing to almost ruin themselves with   like than when even one segment LL with the best doctors in the world (not charlatans from India, Russia etc) is very risky and extreme.
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Posted on Dec 1, 2017, 11:41 pm
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Bodybuilder: bc of money. You’re short, time goes by and you want to be tall today, not tomorrow. You look into your options and find russia is the only one. It is risky, yes, but you won’t die.

Traveling with the frames on is a very bad idea. I would lengthen at the clinic.

Good luck.
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Posted on Dec 1, 2017, 11:44 pm
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Looking forward to reading more about your journey, best of luck!
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Posted on Dec 2, 2017, 12:20 am
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Quote from: Body Builder on December 01, 2017, 12:13:30 PMCross lengthening is maybe the worst idea for LL. Especially if it comes with external femurs.

It is no wonder why they do it in Russia and other third world countries as no respectable doctor would do this.
But it is stupid for people to think that they'll have faster rehabilitation with that crap. The rehabilitation will be much longer than doing tibias and then wait 6 months to do femurs than doing cross lateral. Also the rehabilitation will never be full.

The last LLer that did cross lateral LL on the old forum was crippled with knee rom less than 20-30 degrees and I have never heard a good case with cross lateral.
I don't know why some people are willing to almost ruin themselves with crap like than when even one segment LL with the best doctors in the world (not charlatans from India, Russia etc) is very risky and extreme.


I don't think having two external frames on the femurs at the same time would be particularly manageable so that's with the do the cross thing. Rehab will be tough no doubt, but OverDozer did the same thing for a gain of 15cm total and seems to be fine now. I believe when he first got his frames off he had ROM of only 40 degrees and is now normal, so yeah, sounds like it can be done.
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Posted on Dec 2, 2017, 12:31 am
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Quote from: Bleda on December 02, 2017, 12:20:06 AMI don't think having two external frames on the femurs at the same time would be particularly manageable so that's with the do the cross thing. Rehab will be tough no doubt, but OverDozer did the same thing for a gain of 15cm total and seems to be fine now. I believe when he first got his frames off he had ROM of only 40 degrees and is now normal, so yeah, sounds like it can be done.

Forget about it. Stop spreading nonsense. You will never be normal after neither 16cm nor cross lengthening.

There will be aches every day for the rest of your life.
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Posted on Dec 2, 2017, 1:00 am
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Quote from: Sweden on December 02, 2017, 12:31:54 AMForget about it. Stop spreading nonsense. You will never be normal after neither 16cm nor cross lengthening.

There will be aches every day for the rest of your life.

You'll never be normal after 1cm of lengthening, internal or external, no one is saying that. I just stated what was in Dozer's diary. He did 15cm cross lengthening and says he has pretty much normal ROM. Maybe you could try reading it before just dismissing it completely.
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Posted on Dec 2, 2017, 1:17 am
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Quote from: Sweden on December 01, 2017, 11:41:34 PMBodybuilder: bc of money. You’re short, time goes by and you want to be tall today, not tomorrow. You look into your options and find russia is the only one. It is risky, yes, but you won’t die.

Traveling with the frames on is a very bad idea. I would lengthen at the clinic.

Good luck.
Time does not matter if the result is bad.
Why would someone want to save 6 months-1 year max for having a moderate or bad rehabilitation and limp around while he could do tibias, wait 1 year and then do femurs and be much better?

After all, adding 6-7 cm is not little so I think that noone would be too busy to do 2 LLs and end up crippling himself.

Anyway, crosslateral LL is a very bad idea and no respectable doctor does it. Some people should think more careful before doing such crazy things and risking everything for some months less.
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