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Quote from: Jim_dabarber on September 23, 2018, 04:39:20 PMAverage in the US is definitely around 5’8”. Ive been walking around for 2 weeks now going to parks and the mall and shopping centers and dont see many young/older guys taller than me. Im at 5’8.5” now after finishing my cross-lengthening.

Going by your method someone who sees mostly 6'0 people could deduce the average is about 6'0. Anyone who understands and values statistics knows you can't extrapolate your own experiences to reach conclusion like this. You can't just eyeball a few 100 or even 1000 people then just say "Yup the average height in the entire nation is about 5'8".

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Quote from: Jim_dabarber on September 23, 2018, 04:39:20 PMAverage in the US is definitely around 5’8”. Ive been walking around for 2 weeks now going to parks and the mall and shopping centers and dont see many young/older guys taller than me. Im at 5’8.5” now after finishing my cross-lengthening.

Going by your method someone who sees mostly 6'0 people could deduce the average is about 6'0. Anyone who understands and values statistics knows you can't extrapolate your own experiences to reach conclusion like this. You can't just eyeball a few 100 or even 1000 people then just say "Yup the average height in the entire nation is about 5'8".

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Quote from: TallerDream on September 23, 2018, 04:10:39 PMThatGuy, average height in the UK is not 5’9, it’s 5’10.. the British are a bit taller than Americans.
Second, it’s just statistics, 5’10 is the average height in the UK accounting for all generations.
I am 100% convinced it is the older generations bringing the average down. If you take a sample of only younger people, let’s say born in the 80s and 90s the average is more like 6’0.
I observe a lot people here in London and white males are very tall, 6’0 and beyond. Occasionally you might see a short guy but not often. The same should apply to the US, even though I haven’t been there yet I’ve seen on the internet rumours that young Americans are pretty tall too.

6'0 is so high an average even for an isolated bunch. Even the dutch average is about 181.x which is 5'11. and they r the single country of giants on planet earth.

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Quote from: Sanity on September 24, 2018, 12:13:47 AM6'0 is so high an average even for an isolated bunch. Even the dutch average is about 181.x which is 5'11. and they r the single country of giants on planet earth.

Exactly, people don't value stats they'd just look at a group of people and then extrapolate that to the entire region/nation, its bizarre.

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Quote from: ThatGuy on September 24, 2018, 12:06:09 AMGoing by your method someone who sees mostly 6'0 people could deduce the average is about 6'0. Anyone who understands and values statistics knows you can't extrapolate your own experiences to reach conclusion like this. You can't just eyeball a few 100 or even 1000 people then just say "Yup the average height in the entire nation is about 5'8".

the problem is that many statistical averages and accepted avg heightare based on studies of small samples, and what is worse, most are self-reports

I personally only rely on data from measurements of significant samples and with measurements made by third parties, these are usually from military studies

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Quote from: JON SNOW on September 24, 2018, 02:01:04 AM
the problem is that many statistical averages and accepted avg heightare based on studies of small samples, and what is worse, most are self-reports

I personally only rely on data from measurements of significant samples and with measurements made by third parties, these are usually from military studies

Got a link with more accurate numbers? It seemed like he was completely disregarding stats in general, but I can see where you're coming from.

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Quote from: JON SNOW on September 24, 2018, 02:01:04 AM
the problem is that many statistical averages and accepted avg heightare based on studies of small samples, and what is worse, most are self-reports

I personally only rely on data from measurements of significant samples and with measurements made by third parties, these are usually from military studies

i would like to see military stats. link it to me

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lol at the above, yes, statistics are just statistics. They are accurate (or should be accurate) but, as I mentioned already, they include a very broad sample that represents the entire population, including children and older generations.
For instance, the internet claims the average height for a grown male, in the UK, to be 5'10. This is probably true, however, based on what I have been noticing for quite some time is that younger males are taller than that. My estimation, based on what I've seen and confront every single day is that average height for young white males is more like 6'0. If the statistics represented young males, solely, then most guys I see every day would be very close to my eye level which is not the case.

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Quote from: TallerDream on September 23, 2018, 01:21:51 AMguys I get it, 5'9 is not that bad but it's a height I don't really sustain for long so I'd say I'm more like 5'8 during the day, 5'9 wearing shoes..
I am not happy with my height, I feel like a midget here in London..I compare my height with thousands of ppl everyday and I am rarely as tall as a white man, they're all taller like 90%.. I am as tall as many asians though. I had to endure 3yrs at university living in halls with 6'0+ brahs and I was among the shortest. I noticed these guys had no style whatsoever, bad looking faces but were pussy magnetizers solely because of their height and a bit of social skill/charisma. Throughout my Youth and now my early adulthood, I feel I have several qualities girls like and feel attracted to such as my facial structure, my hair, my eyes, my intelligence, my sense of humour, my honesty, my future prospects... but I just feel this layer of unease and girls give me the eye something's wrong and I'm pretty sure it's my height, because it's the only thing I don't have as a plus. The sxxual prejudice is real.. and so is in other aspects of life.So the point is, do I have to live an entire life of discontent revolving my stature? I don't think so... will my proportions be negatively affected? Most definitely. Put I can cope with that.. with this hindrance not letting me live my life to the fullest and not letting me feel good about myself, I can't. I just can't.. I am not even trying to justify undergoing this surgery because at the end of the day we'll do whatever the fk our minds tell us to. Gathering the money to do this and being bedridden for months won't be a walk in the park... but I can handle it.. I just wish I could taller today, not tomorrow

i agree and yea bro sadly that layer of unease is nothing else but ur not so good height. atleast ur smart enough to realise tht   but ive seen ppl so stupid who think maybe it was somthing they said rofl xd. bitches nowdays have become so unrealistic and their height demands have gone up like crazy. they wont just settle. i've seen it in my own life experience. and more so even celebrities like leonardo decaprio get dumped because their ex thaught their ideal partner would be taller. blame feminism and materialism. gotta stay reddpilled to see the facts in this materialism apocalypse.

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Quote from: TallerDream on September 24, 2018, 03:57:25 AMlol at the above, yes, statistics are just statistics. They are accurate (or should be accurate) but, as I mentioned already, they include a very broad sample that represents the entire population, including children and older generations.
For instance, the internet claims the average height for a grown male, in the UK, to be 5'10. This is probably true, however, based on what I have been noticing for quite some time is that younger males are taller than that. My estimation, based on what I've seen and confront every single day is that average height for young white males is more like 6'0. If the statistics represented young males, solely, then most guys I see every day would be very close to my eye level which is not the case.

No, they don't include children when they give averages for adult height. The site I gave you actually shows the averages between different age groups as well its very comprehensive.