The difference between 3 and 5cm is substantial. At 3 cm you will still have reasonable ankle range of motion when you get to 5 you will have very little.
The people on these boards are not athletes so it's best not to ask their opinions on what their abilities will be like after an operation like this. Folk who are lazy in their recovery and/or who do not know how to train properly will struggle to get back to normal. The individuals who have screwed themselves up athletically are people who have lengthened huge amounts and not used their brains or were lied to by the greedy foreign doctors who are willing to perform this surgery. These people go into denial and say 'oh well there's no difference between 2cms and 7 so il do 7cms' that's complete crap the more you do the more you will lose
Quote from: jojo on March 12, 2017, 05:03:42 PMwhy are you so sure - you WONT be close to pre LL
i mean this is done many times a month all over the world.
it seems like this forum is only for the few people that had bad outcome. do ANYONE knows the real facts about this ?
So what?
I've done LL, I am not just reading like this surgery like you or most of the people here.
And no, this forum is for anyone that does, did or think about LL.
Many people here are writing diaries (like I did in anold forum) and anyone can see the complications at the tome they happen.
So you are completely wrong if you think than on these forums are only patients with bad outcomes.
What you see here is, more or less, what could happen in anyone who does LL.
With a good doctor of course chances for a better outcome are far more bit still anything can occur.
And of course you will be good, not perfect like before LL.
So people who want to be 100% compared to their preLL condition, who want to have the perfect proportions or who want to be 1.85 from 1.83 (for instance) should know that LL is not for them.
Nobody can stop them of course but they would be completely disappointed after this surgery, each one for different reasons.
LL is ideal for short or about average people who are willing to sacrifice their perfect proportions and their perfect athletic abilities to gain height. The only deal is to sacrifice the less you can, nothing else.
Any other who considers LL has no real reason for me and I'm sure that even if he does LL his life won't be any better at all.
i agree with this alot
still when i look at youtube people look more or less normal and happy
the ones with good docs and less amount
Quote from: Bigpoppapump on March 12, 2017, 05:08:52 PMThe difference between 3 and 5cm is substantial. At 3 cm you will still have reasonable ankle range of motion when you get to 5 you will have very little.
The people on these boards are not athletes so it's best not to ask their opinions on what their abilities will be like after an operation like this. Folk who are lazy in their recovery and/or who do not know how to train properly will struggle to get back to normal. The individuals who have screwed themselves up athletically are people who have lengthened huge amounts and not used their brains or were lied to by the greedy foreign doctors who are willing to perform this surgery. These people go into denial and say 'oh well there's no difference between 2cms and 7 so il do 7cms' that's complete crap the more you do the more you will lose
And if you don't do LL at all you'll have even greater ROM.
Although in my experience, I had almost normal ROM even when I hit 5cm but lets say you are right.
What is the reason for somenone to do LL for 3cm? What difference that 3cm could make to someone especially if he is already more than 5.11?
So thats the real question for me, not if 3cm are a little better than doing 5cm or a lot better than doing 7cm.
3cm make no real difference so anyone who care so much about athletic abilities have no reason to do LL at all, even more if he wants to risk for nothing. Because 1 inch is nothing compared to how harsh LL is as a surgery.
Anyway, anyone is free to do what he wants with his body.
But I'm really wondering which doctor would take these people as patients. Because I would never trust a doctor who makes a LL to an 1.81cm patients, moreover for only 2-3cm.
People like these for sure don't need this surgery and only a greedy doctor would have taken them as patients.
abo, 2-3 cm are not worth for tons of money. 4 cm should be the minimum. At your height 181 cm, it is not very necessary, because you are above average and if you add more you will continue being above average. The real benefit is when you are short or average but being almost 6 ft, it will help but not that much. Good luck.
Quote from: Auron on March 12, 2017, 05:06:36 PMYes, you're right. I should've ignored him as I usually do. What I said was too harsh and cold. If the moderatores decide to ban me I won't blame them.
You have acknowledged that the comment was out of line so there's no reason to worry about it further. I don't think the moderators should ban you at all, you are a valued contributor and are sharing your valuable limb lengthening experience with this forum for the users benefit. We can all let frustration get the better of us and I have seen much more severe comments in other threads.
QuoteI totally agree with this one statement, however, this forum has been going in an opposite direction for a while now. Sometimes I wonder why I'm wasting my time trying to share my LL experience here.
I hope you continue to share your journey with us, I'm sure many people on this forum value your contributions and sharing your experience but believe me, I completely understand how you feel. Discussions are often brought down to the same few topics repeatedly or are dragged into flame wars, certain users start posting abuse or jokes etc. All that it shows is how woefully immature many users are and shouldn't really be considering such a life changing procedure. Just keep calm and don't engage on that level.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 12, 2017, 05:18:23 PM LL is ideal for short or about average people who are willing to sacrifice their perfect proportions and their perfect athletic abilities to gain height. The only deal is to sacrifice the less you can, nothing else.
Any other who considers LL has no real reason for me and I'm sure that even if he does LL his life won't be any better at all.
There is no such thing as 'perfect proportions'. Proportions normally fall in a set range and even the more extreme ones can often be found naturally (Long/short torso, long/short legs, long/short arms in any combination) as to why people who are exactly the same height can have completely different proportions - there is no steadfast proportional rule for heights.
The 'pre-limb lengthening perfect proportions/golden ratio' argument is mentioned frequently but doesn't hold much weight, one could change these simply by administering growth hormone during puberty or likewise stunt possible growth through many factors possibly resulting in more/less height which would differ from the proportions you currently have - have these people ruined their 'perfect proportions'? Completely disregarding the other aspects - as long as somebody fell between the accepted range of proportions and didn't lengthen excessively, in terms of pure proportionality, they would be as proportional as anybody else.
I do completely agree that many lengthen excessively and sacrifice proportional balance and certainly agree that there is a trade off between athletic ability and lengthening, no matter the amount, although certain circumstances can mean a further reduced athletic ability.
Quote from: jojo on March 12, 2017, 05:03:42 PMwhy are you so sure - you WONT be close to pre LL
i mean this is done many times a month all over the world.
it seems like this forum is only for the few people that had bad outcome. do ANYONE knows the real facts about this ?
The only real fact that holds true across the board, regardless of doctor or method, is that you have had both legs broken and your soft tissues stretched 2-3 inches
Quote from: abo on March 12, 2017, 11:15:17 AMWill i be able to run like before, swim, compete in mixed martial arts?
I will not do more than 4cm more likely iv go with 2-3cm...
The answer is Nooooooo!!, at least not like before, for swimming yes you can within the first two months if its "Internal", Good luck
Functionally speaking, 5cm on one person could be disastrous while on another could be pretty easy. About proportions, usually 2 inches on either segment aren't going to make a noticable change.
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