DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 09, 2016, 11:17:42 PMHey man Hope recovery is getting better.
  I wanted to ask you, I read also old forums and I saw that you were supposed to be at the same time as this "Agrios" dude at the Paley's institute. Did you see him?
If he's Asian, then yes, I saw him. But the Asian guy I met was not very talkative in person. So I don't know if it's the same person. But the timeline and height seem to match... so I don't know.

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Quote from: chineseguy on February 12, 2016, 05:35:44 PMmr DIFM,

do you think if you lenghten less maybe 5 cm, you can recover now? 

Thank you
Yes. If I stopped at 5 cm, I pretty sure that I would have much less pain than now, and would probably have recovered already. My legs didn't start feeling very tight until after 5 cm. And my legs were still pretty flexible when they were at 5 cm. I think that my leg muscles are tight because they keep trying to go back to the way things were before. So each morning when I wake up, they're tight. But as I use them, they get looser and stop aching.

BUT, it also hurts when I walk. And when I walk for too long, then it gets sore in certain places. Usually it's the top-left part of my femur hurting. It could be because that muscle in that area is weak. I still have pain in that area when I lay on my side and try to raise my legs up like this: http://fitness.makeupandbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/37.png My right leg also hurts in that area when I do the same exercise but much less painful. So I think it's because my muscle is still very weak. BUT it's weird that my left leg and right leg hurt differently when I work out both my legs at the same amount. So a part of me thinks that something is messed up on my left leg. Maybe a nerve is being pinched by the nails on the rod when I move it into a certain position. I don't know.

So right now it seems like I lose either way. If I don't use my legs, then it aches from tightness of the muscles. If I use them too much, then I get sore in my muscles from overuse. So each day I just have different aches/soreness in my legs depending on what I did earlier in the day or the day before.

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sorry to askso many things       i also want to be taller


do you regret doing this?     

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Quote from: chineseguy on February 12, 2016, 06:07:34 PMsorry to askso many things       i also want to be taller


do you regret doing this?     
That's a question I ask myself everyday. If my pain lasts forever, then I would regret doing this surgery. I thought that my chances of having permanent pain were low because I was doing internal femurs and with Dr. Paley. I see people like Sweden and Crimsontide who did tibias and are having pain and problems. But it seems like it's possible that even doing internal femurs with Dr. Paley can leave you with permanent pain as well. Nobody is safe it seems.

If the pain goes away, then I will not regret it. I don't care if I can't be super good at sports anymore, because I'm getting old anyway, and don't expect to be a top athlete at this age. But if my pain lasts for the rest of my life, then I completely regret doing this surgery. The day that my leg pains finally go away is the day that I'll finally be happy with this surgery.

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Won't the pain reduce or go after the nails are removed? Does it ever completely go with them still inside?

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It can also be the ileopsoas muscle.. Try doing exercises to stretch it.
 Like the thomas stretch

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Sometimes I read things like this, and I'm glad I stopped around 7cm. It's over a year for me, and I still have minor issues:

- Quad/hip flexor tightness (though I've been steadily working on that, and it's getting better). Have been seeing steady improvement even as recent as the last few weeks, so optimistic about these.
- Pain in my left glute medius/hip (due to screw - this will resolve once the screw comes out or I have Dr. G adjust it soon). So, not really worried about this, long-term.
- Occasional right knee pain (but this isn't due to weight-bearing, and it's not a bad pain. It has to due with a contracture I have. PT will likely fix it, but it's only ocassional, not a constant pain).
- Running still not great looking, but I haven't really tried as much as I should have (and it's not great due to remaining tightness).

Aside from these (to me, relatively minor issues, I'm mostly good. I had very bad pain in my left leg that last for quite a while after I stopped lengthening. 8cm is a lot. Maybe it's good that I stopped...

DIFM, hang in there. You will recover from this, but it will just take time. Dr. Guichet has been very candid with me, and true recovery often takes years. ShyShy is really the only one I can think of who seems to have recovered fully lightning fast for a fairly high amount of lengthening (7.5cm). He is very far from the norm. He worked hard, yes, but I think he was also ultra lucky.

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Hey DoingItForMe, I'm really considering doing the LL surgery. I've been looking at Dr. R and Dr. M, but my main concern right now is money and time away from work. If you don't mind me asking, how did you pay for the surgery? Did you save and pay in full or did you finance it? And how long did you have to stay by the doctor?

Thanks!

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Quote from: tallerG4u on February 13, 2016, 03:40:59 AMHey DoingItForMe, I'm really considering doing the LL surgery. I've been looking at Dr. R and Dr. M, but my main concern right now is money and time away from work. If you don't mind me asking, how did you pay for the surgery? Did you save and pay in full or did you finance it? And how long did you have to stay by the doctor?

Thanks!
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Hey DIFM, quick question about your lodging during your stay at WPB, you mentioned you stayed at Hilton Homewood Suites, a studio for 70.00 a night. I researched and either I cant find the right rate; can you provide a phone number to that place or a particular office that will be able to help, thank you and wishing you continued recovery, I've been following your posts and they're also quite interesting
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