Quote from: Alu on February 23, 2016, 11:15:28 PMThat's not the point. That's never been the point for certain people. Stop shoving your reasoning to others; especially when it's discouraging bases solely on your own crazed reasoning (the fact that you would even consider ll:this applies really to everyone).
I am not discouraging anybody. In fact, I am encouraging everybody ! I am currently communicating via PMs with a guy who is 184cm and wants to do 190 because he is an aspiring model and he was rejected from some model agencies because they say the average for them is like 187-8. I am supportive of this. In the end of the day everybody does LL to accomplish a personal goal.
You are telling me I am crazy to do LL at 175.5, and I am telling you that at 175.5 I am among the shortest 20% of people and just slightly above average height for women (172-3 should be the average) I am below average when all these girls put on heels.
In the case of the person above, he is 169 and wants to go to 173. I am encouraging him to go to 176 because if he breaks his legs, sacrifices months and 30-50k, then 4 cm is simply not worth it. And 7cm is still within what is considered safe for femural lengthening and what is recommended by doctors.
DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley
Quote from: LLuser1 on February 23, 2016, 11:15:11 PMCooper did femurs with Paley and then has been quoted more than 150k to fix the mess Monegal caused.
do you know what kind of complications Cooper had? how do you know and can you provide some proof or get him to give us an update on his diary? I can't tell if you're making it up and genuinely curious to know what happened to him
Quote from: aspirant185 on February 24, 2016, 01:10:27 AMI am not discouraging anybody. In fact, I am encouraging everybody ! I am currently communicating via PMs with a guy who is 184cm and wants to do 190 because he is an aspiring model and he was rejected from some model agencies because they say the average for them is like 187-8. I am supportive of this. In the end of the day everybody does LL to accomplish a personal goal.
You are telling me I am crazy to do LL at 175.5, and I am telling you that at 175.5 I am among the shortest 20% of people and just slightly above average height for women (172-3 should be the average) I am below average when all these girls put on heels.
In the case of the person above, he is 169 and wants to go to 173. I am encouraging him to go to 176 because if he breaks his legs, sacrifices months and 30-50k, then 4 cm is simply not worth it. And 7cm is still within what is considered safe for femural lengthening and what is recommended by doctors.
I really dont get it... 172-173 average of girls? I have seen many german girls coming to Erasmus here in Italy and I have never seen a girl taller than me....
Thank god I am from Israel where heels are considered ugly so some brainless women dont put them into calculation about what height the man is supposed to be.
Quote from: Tiger5 on February 23, 2016, 02:28:03 PMHello DIFM\
I will be doing Femurs soon, I asked about the old forum discount, they said they haven't done that in many years, I mentioned that one of the patients in summer of 2015 received the discount, which is referring to you.
The financial guy said he would need more info to apply this discount.
Anything you can add to help point out how, and who got you this discount for you?
Thanks much
T
Dr. Paley has not been very generous when it comes to money. I have examples of this with his other patients, but I cannot disclose it yet, because they're still being treated by him. I wouldn't recommend going to him, if you plan on saving money. You might paying more than what you expect. I am not surprised that you didn't get a discount.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 22, 2016, 01:26:02 PMbtw doingitforme, how is your walking? Pain appart, is your gait normal?
I still walk like a penguin when I get tired. But I can force myself to have a normal gait in the beginning when I'm not. I suspect that the penguin gait is because the muscles near my butt are weak. And they're weak because it hurts when I do side leg raises so I haven't done a lot of them until recently. For the past two weeks, I've been doing a lot of side leg raises, and my right leg is recovering very well. There isn't much pain or weakness on my right leg. But my left leg still continues to hurt near the top of my femur. I suspect that something bad happened to my leg there, because the pain doesn't seem to be going away even after working out that muscle. I fear that that pain will be permanent. Which means that every time I walk, I will experience pain on that spot. And if I sleep on my left side and weight is put on that area, it will hurt. When I poke it, it hurts. When I move my left leg sideways, it hurts there. And even right now, after I've walked for a while and rested, that area is hurting as I'm typing this. So, I think it is a permanent pain. Perhaps when they remove the rod, it might be better. But I doubt it. I think something really bad happened there. My left leg might be screwed up forever.
Quote from: DoingItForMe on February 24, 2016, 01:29:13 AMDr. Paley has not been very generous when it comes to money. I have examples of this with his other patients, but I cannot disclose it yet, because they're still being treated by him. I wouldn't recommend going to him, if you plan on saving money. You might paying more than what you expect. I am not surprised that you didn't get a discount.
I still walk like a penguin when I get tired. But I can force myself to have a normal gait in the beginning when I'm not. I suspect that the penguin gait is because the muscles near my butt are weak. And they're weak because it hurts when I do side leg raises so I haven't done a lot of them until recently. For the past two weeks, I've been doing a lot of side leg raises, and my right leg is recovering very well. There isn't much pain or weakness on my right leg. But my left leg still continues to hurt near the top of my femur. I suspect that something bad happened to my leg there, because the pain doesn't seem to be going away even after working out that muscle. I fear that that pain will be permanent. Which means that every time I walk, I will experience pain on that spot. And if I sleep on my left side and weight is put on that area, it will hurt. When I poke it, it hurts. When I move my left leg sideways, it hurts there. And even right now, after I've walked for a while and rested, that area is hurting as I'm typing this. So, I think it is a permanent pain. Perhaps when they remove the rod, it might be better. But I doubt it. I think something really bad happened there. My left leg might be screwed up forever.
Upper thigh might also be the ileopsoas. I suggest your to try the thomas stretch for the ileopsoas along the pigeon pose. It it's the rectus femoralis just try and do as many from thigh stretched (stand up, grab your feet and curl your calve until the feet touches your butt and afterwards pull the feet up as much as you can while your feet always touches your butt). The pain might be because of a constant stretch.
aspirant185, do you think that being your height is the reason why you're not getting laid with gorgeous girls? Is that why you're doing LL?
I just looked on the web what are exactly 3 inch heels and up.
I have to confess. I have never, ever, ever, ever ,ever seen a girl with a 4 inch heel, rarely seen 3 inch heels and only sometimes 2-1 inch heels... Even here in Italy.
Always when there is a girl with high heels she walks like a complete tard and everyone thinks it's a joke... I have also never met a quality girl that wear high heels (It is considered an absolute sign of empty brained not educated "insert the W word here" in Israel but also here in Italy... Nothing "elegant" about it... We are not in the 20th century anymore)
No, it's not. The pain is on the side of my leg, and not in front of it. Thomas stretch for stretching the front of my thigh. Anyway, you got me looking up on Google what the pain is. And it's this: http://www.newhealthguide.org/Tensor-Fasciae-Latae-Pain.html
The TFL is responsible for pelvis stabilization, so that might explain why I still walk like a penguin. Seems like runners get TFL injuries. I'm looking up exercises to try to stretch and work it out. I'll report back after a few weeks of it whether I fixed it or not.
Quote from: DoingItForMe on February 24, 2016, 01:29:13 AMDr. Paley has not been very generous when it comes to money. I have examples of this with his other patients, but I cannot disclose it yet, because they're still being treated by him. I wouldn't recommend going to him, if you plan on saving money. You might paying more than what you expect. I am not surprised that you didn't get a discount.
I still walk like a penguin when I get tired. But I can force myself to have a normal gait in the beginning when I'm not. I suspect that the penguin gait is because the muscles near my butt are weak. And they're weak because it hurts when I do side leg raises so I haven't done a lot of them until recently. For the past two weeks, I've been doing a lot of side leg raises, and my right leg is recovering very well. There isn't much pain or weakness on my right leg. But my left leg still continues to hurt near the top of my femur. I suspect that something bad happened to my leg there, because the pain doesn't seem to be going away even after working out that muscle. I fear that that pain will be permanent. Which means that every time I walk, I will experience pain on that spot. And if I sleep on my left side and weight is put on that area, it will hurt. When I poke it, it hurts. When I move my left leg sideways, it hurts there. And even right now, after I've walked for a while and rested, that area is hurting as I'm typing this. So, I think it is a permanent pain. Perhaps when they remove the rod, it might be better. But I doubt it. I think something really bad happened there. My left leg might be screwed up forever.
A lot of inactivity will definitely weaken your glutes significantly. In addition to the trauma that LL causes in itself (broken bones, stretched muscle) I think that the extreme inactivity probably makes patients susceptible to a number of injuries/niggles too. I had extremely weak glutes and hamstrings just from too much sitting at the computer let alone LL - it took me about a year to fix them up and have what I'd consider decent mobility.
Anyway, my point is that you have a lot of weak areas now. Hopefully if you strengthen your glutes, hamstrings and quads you'll feel better. Hip thrusts are one of the greatest posterior chain/glute exercises imo. If you can try do something close to them, I think it will help your recovery.
Quote from: DoingItForMe on February 24, 2016, 02:05:09 AMaspirant185, do you think that being your height is the reason why you're not getting laid with gorgeous girls? Is that why you're doing LL?
I am getting average to above average girls. Girls are the least of my concerns right now with the ridiculous amount of workload in uni and the job apps etc..
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