DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley

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Will you remove the screw?

Do.you plan to.do.the tibia?

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I don't know what my morning and night height is and I don't care. At this height, I stopped caring about every cm. I would have been happy at just 5'8". My friends noticed that I was taller than before. Luckily they only think I'm one inch taller because I was gradually using shoe lifts to get them used to the taller height prior to surgery.

Quote from: chineseguy on April 19, 2016, 06:17:50 PMWill you remove the screw?

Do.you plan to.do.the tibia?
Yes, I plan on removing the rod and screws when my bones have finished consolidating. It actually hasn't finished yet, and the whole left side of my left femur and right side of right femur hasn't been growing bone. Everyone else's xrays look fine except for mine. But that doesn't matter to me because my rods are holding me up.

I won't do tibias. I am happy with this height and do not want to go through the whole process again. I don't recommend this surgery for anyone around my new height. It's not worth it even if money is not a factor. But getting out of the 5'5"-5'6" range was nice. I don't look oddly shaped anymore.

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Hey Difm,

How long did it take you to go from operation day to walking around on crutches and how long till you were self sufficient?

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Congrats on the reduced pain and further rehab progress! And thank you for replying to me too  . Good your consolidated enough to walk and light jog, but shame the sides so slow to finish consolidating. Are there things they have you doing to try to help with that? Or will it just happen in time as your bones slowly keep getting stronger? Hope you are back to 100% soon!

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Quote from: EndGame on April 20, 2016, 12:11:04 AMCongrats on the reduced pain and further rehab progress! And thank you for replying to me too  . Good your consolidated enough to walk and light jog, but shame the sides so slow to finish consolidating. Are there things they have you doing to try to help with that? Or will it just happen in time as your bones slowly keep getting stronger? Hope you are back to 100% soon!
Paley told me to use an exogen machine, but frankly, I don't think it's working on bone that hasn't been growing in the first place or working at all. I've been using an exogen 4000+ since the beginning of consolidation. After about 250 uses or so, the machine broke. It didn't run out of batteries. It just had an error and stopped working. A month after that, I checked the x-rays and my bone growth was more or less the same as the months when I was using the exogen. So I have my suspicions that the machine didn't help me that much. Plus, for 4 months, the exogen failed to get the sides of my femurs to start growing anyway.

Comparing my x-rays from Oct 2015 to March 2016 shows only about 1-2 cm bone grow on the top and bottom. That's about a half a year difference in time. At this rate, my femur will probably not have union for years.

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Quote from: DoingItForMe on April 20, 2016, 06:41:55 AMPaley told me to use an exogen machine, but frankly, I don't think it's working on bone that hasn't been growing in the first place or working at all. I've been using an exogen 4000+ since the beginning of consolidation. After about 250 uses or so, the machine broke. It didn't run out of batteries. It just had an error and stopped working. A month after that, I checked the x-rays and my bone growth was more or less the same as the months when I was using the exogen. So I have my suspicions that the machine didn't help me that much. Plus, for 4 months, the exogen failed to get the sides of my femurs to start growing anyway.

Comparing my x-rays from Oct 2015 to March 2016 shows only about 1-2 cm bone grow on the top and bottom. That's about a half a year difference in time. At this rate, my femur will probably not have union for years.

Exogen is a scam, It is configurated just for a limit time of use. You can do just 200-250 uses.

I am using other machine, cheaper and with the same frequency, 1 Mhz besides you can choosee between pulsed/continuos

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Denshine-Ultrasound-Massager-Therapy-Ultrasonic/dp/B00W96A35A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

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Quote from: yagen on April 20, 2016, 06:58:31 AMExogen is a scam, It is configurated just for a limit time of use. You can do just 200-250 uses.

I am using other machine, cheaper and with the same frequency, 1 Mhz besides you can choosee between pulsed/continuos

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Denshine-Ultrasound-Massager-Therapy-Ultrasonic/dp/B00W96A35A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
Yea, exogen is charging $3000-4000 to insurance companies for what is essentially a $20 device to manufacture. They're a PoS company that's defrauding insurance companies. I see that the company claims that it works amazingly for patients, but the month where I didn't use the exogen also saw the most bone growth where there weren't any. Also the sides of my bones that had no bone growth was where I placed the exogen machine the closest. So I think the exogen machine actually made my bone growth worse.

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Congrats on doing better DIFM.

I will say (though I lengthened just over 7cm whereas you did 8cm), the pain takes a while to go away. The only pain I really have now is occasional (and very manageable) right knee pain (due to muscle tightness, which I've been actively working on and seeing results) and left screw pain (and even that's somewhat improving, though like you said, won't stop until screws are out). I had a pretty scary pain in my left leg that didn't really go away until like 6 months after I stopped lengthening.

Consolidation takes a lot of time. I think you'll be ok in the end because Precice is a bit easier on healing, whereas ratcheting rods can be rough.

My slow-ish consolidation (particularly on my left leg) concerns me a bit for tibs. Thankfully I'm doing between 3 and 4cm max for recovery time and proportions sake. I refuse to be anything less than fully satisfied, or at the very least, content with my height. I'm actually not that different from your height..my evening height is sometimes as high as 5'8.25" depending on the day (though I don't measure nearly as much anymore because at this point, it doesn't matter)...but now with boat shoe season coming up (and I love them in the summer, because they're so comfortable and stylish lol)...I have to still worry about what shoes I wear. Another inch gives me a lot more freedom. In our range, an inch makes a big difference.

Also, surprised to hear missionary is hard on you. I did missionary with this one girl recently, and it was totally fine. The only position I somewhat struggle with (though not nearly as much now) is (not sure if there's a name for it) is where your butt is touching your feet (your knees/quads are fully bent to be adjacent to your tibs) and the girl is on her back, and you're giving it to her that way. I can do it, but takes a bit of effort (and prior stretching ).

But as long as I can do doggy, speed bumper, and sex off the side of the bed (with her feet on my shoulders), I'm a happy camper.

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In the latest X-ray I took, I can see why my left screw is causing me pain in my left TFL. The bone near the screw retreated and exposed the head of the screw. So the screw head is now completely outside of the bone and is forming a hook shape that can get caught on any muscle fibers.

I think we were talking about the same position. This is what I have trouble doing now: And it sounds like it's the same position you're describing. Anything that requires me to bend my knees and spread my legs is causing me pain, so it's very distracting.

This is the alternative position I do now so that I don't have to bend my knees as much:

This pronebone position is also very hard for me to do, too now because of the same knee bending, leg spreading, or bending my legs back requirements to get a low enough angle:

Anyway, I'm going to keep stretching to see if I can get my legs to flex back to what it was originally. If a kung fu master or ballerina can do it, I can do it.

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this is getting interesting