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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 3:03 pm
#1

I'm 5'2(157cms) and today my best friend came over. He must be about 5'7. I told him about LL and asked him to stand in the mirror next to me and his waist is about 3-4 inches higher than mine. He looks like he's done at least 2 inches of LL when he obviously hasn't. Either that or my legs are just short.

So if your proportions LOOK alright, they're alright. This is obviously aesthetically speaking and not about the altered bio-mechanics.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 3:43 pm
#2

Try out a racing leather suit and you'll see that guys taller than you have longer arms and everything else.

Everyone is proportionate but can get away with lengthening if they put on muscles.
Your legs are proportionate for your height, not short, not tall - proportionate.

Sorry.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 5:46 pm
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Quote from: Sweden on August 10, 2015, 03:43:20 PMTry out a racing leather suit and you'll see that guys taller than you have longer arms and everything else. That isn't a realistic scenario. How often will you put on a racing/full body swimming suit?

QuoteYour legs are proportionate for your height, not short, not tall - proportionate. So all men that are the same height have legs that are exactly the same height too? Highly doubt it. Sometimes the torso is longer, sometimes the legs are.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 7:27 pm
#4

Taller men have longer legs on average, most of the height difference between me and my dad are leg length.

They also have broader torso's and shoulders as well as longer arms though.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 7:42 pm
#5

Uppland,

Do you know your dad's sitting height? How much more is it than yours? I believe you mentioned your dad is 188cm, correct? 

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 7:46 pm
#6

Guys of the same age is just about exactly proportionate.

It's the fat and muscles that makes the difference. Legs are the same just as torso and arms.

It's only on this forum in the entire world where EVERYBODY has short legs.

Forget about it.

Oh, and I said try it out, not wear it every day. If you and your friend try it out you'll see that his arms are longer than yours - and everything else on him.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 8:27 pm
#7

Quote from: Sweden on August 10, 2015, 07:46:46 PMGuys of the same age is just about exactly proportionate.
You sure about that?

http://adc.bmj.com/content/90/8/807.full

QuoteCross-sectional data on height and sitting height were collected from 14 500 children of Dutch origin in the age range 0–21 years.
QuoteIn exceptionally short or tall children, the dependency of the SH/H ratio (SDS) on height SDS has to be taken into consideration in the evaluation of body proportions
QuoteIt is generally known that tall children have relatively long legs and vice versa.4,5 Therefore, we conjecture that the interpretation of SH/H ratio should not only be based on age references, but also on height.
QuoteThis is illustrated in fig 3 which presents a scatter plot of SH/H SDS versus height SDS. The equiprobable ellipse around 95% of the points shows a tendency towards decreasing SH/H SDS with increasing height SDS. Conversely, shorter children have higher SH/H ratios, thus relatively shorter legs.
Don't worry TOO much about looks of proportions.

QuoteDuring the past two centuries in the Netherlands, as well as in many more industrialised countries, a positive secular growth change has been observed.6 Various studies have shown that the positive secular change is mainly due to increase in leg length rather than in trunk length.1,4,10–13 Tanner reported that between the 1950s and 1980s Japanese height increased solely due to change in leg length. Sitting height showed no increase, so the trunk/leg proportions changed much more towards the proportions of North Europeans, though their final height was still 1 SD lower.14
QuoteThe Oosterwolde study showed that in 10 years (1980–90) the increase in height was more pronounced than the increase in sitting height, so the major secular change must have been in the legs
QuoteIn conclusion, new reference charts for sitting height, leg length, and body proportion are presented. There was a statistically significant negative correlation between SH/LL and SH/H and height. For practical purposes, in an exceptionally short child a SH/H ratio below +2.5 SDS and in a tall child a SH/H ratio above –2.2 should still be considered normal.
Don't worry TOO much about looks of proportions.

You like to talk as if you know everything, but do you?



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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 9:43 pm
#8

It is just a fact: Shorter people doesn't have just shorter legs. We ARE proportionate from the beginning!!

We can get away with leg lengthening, sure, but we are already proportionate from the beginning.
Your arms are not equal long as anyone who is taller than you - not happening!

Bones grow too if you body builds, they even gets wider too.

I have very broad shoulders and they were extreme before the surgery compared to my height. But I also have very strong shoulders too, that's why.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 10:08 pm
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Quote from: Polycrates. on August 10, 2015, 07:42:28 PMUppland,

Do you know your dad's sitting height? How much more is it than yours? I believe you mentioned your dad is 188cm, correct?

He's 186,5 at his lowest I guess he wakes up around 188. I don't know his sitting height but I estimate it to be 1 or 2CM taller than mine which means that his legs are 6-7CM longer. He does look pretty long-legged though.

@Dozer Thanks for posting but what really matters is how it looks IRl. Either it looks good or it doesn't.

I have another anecdote in case you're interested. I actually measured my freinds inseam (he never shrinks below 185) and it was 88CM, for the record mine is 83CM and I'm 7CM shorter.

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Posted on Aug 10, 2015, 10:15 pm
#10

Your friend must think your weird  Don't worry TOO much about looks of proportions.

Measure his arms as well. Everything on him will be longer than your measurements.


Your starting height was greater than mine. I can come visit you and we can measure our arms and everything. Then you'll see that I'm taller than you ONLY when standing up. You'll probably reach farther up than me.

I'm in Stockholm, so it's close to everything.

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