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Dr. Alexander Kirienko (Milan, Italy) - Ilizarov Tibia

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TheDream
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Posted on Nov 28, 2023, 9:25 pm
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Quote from: Hobbit99 on November 28, 2023, 09:09:28 PMI thought this was the standard. Do many other surgeons offer to stay at the clinic for the whole lenthening process? I think it’s better to stay at home. At least I have my pc
Some people go home, often if they live nearby. But as far as I know people tend to stay in an accommodation offered by the surgeon close by the hospital where there are physios, food, other patients to socialize with etc.

The quality of these places vary of course.
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Posted on Nov 28, 2023, 9:36 pm
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Got it. I think that is more common for surgeons or whole companies that focus on cosmetic ll with a lot of marketing and and a worldwide target.
My surgeon main job is treating various pathologies with the ilizarov and can also use it for cosmetic reasons.
I think it’s the same for other italian surgeons like catagni and pili.
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Posted on Nov 28, 2023, 11:46 pm
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It's quite cheap, even externals are much cheaper here than in Poland. Is he experienced, do you have a website or a pge where I can read reviews. I assume he is an Ukrainian who works as a doctor in Milan, it's not a problem if he is experienced and does his job well tho.
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Posted on Nov 28, 2023, 11:54 pm
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He's russian. He worked with Ilizarov himself in Kurgan.
He seems experienced.
I don't know about reviews. Try searching for his name on google/youtube or instagram

EDIT: 22k is a lot of money even for a surgery here in italy
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Posted on Nov 29, 2023, 12:04 pm
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Quote from: Hobbit99 on November 28, 2023, 11:54:22 PMHe's russian. He worked with Ilizarov himself in Kurgan.
He seems experienced.
I don't know about reviews. Try searching for his name on google/youtube or instagram

EDIT: 22k is a lot of money even for a surgery here in italy

Yes. I checked him, he is an experienced and legit one. You've mentioned that you returned to your home in Rome because you have your pc there. I want to ask you a question about it because I work in IT field as a programmer, do you think it's possible to do some programming microtasks like 2-4 hours a day?

How long will you wear these frames if you lengthen 6 cm?

Is it possible to live near him and checky by during the process, like renting a flat around the place that they did a surgery in milan?

Also I wish you good results and speed recovery!
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Posted on Nov 29, 2023, 1:28 pm
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Yes you can program. I can study with my pc/ipad so can program. Be sure not having your knee always flexed. Do a lot of stretching.
I think ‘ll wear them for 8 months in total If I understood well, but it varies between patients.

I don’t know if it’s feasible to rent an apartment because rents in milan and near milan are very expensive. You should check some prices.
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Posted on Nov 29, 2023, 1:49 pm
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are you going to bone consolidate with the frames on? i wonder why is that?
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Posted on Nov 29, 2023, 2:17 pm
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Quote from: Hobbit99 on November 26, 2023, 03:18:41 PMHere you go, these are from 2 weeks ago.
Sorry for the quality but by pc doesn't have a cd reader

You can see in the first image a slight procurvatum deformity. This should be fixed easily thanks to the hinges already attached to the fixator.
The cut is not clean probably because the didn't use the saw but rather the classic osteotome. His assistant told me that the saw generates too much heat.
Doctor says it's all good except for the procurvatum.

 Dr. Alexander Kirienko (Milan, Italy) - Ilizarov Tibia Dr. Alexander Kirienko (Milan, Italy) - Ilizarov Tibia Dr. Alexander Kirienko (Milan, Italy) - Ilizarov Tibia

I can't see any hinges... R U sure about the hinges?
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Posted on Nov 29, 2023, 2:50 pm
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Yes, this is a hinge.  Dr. Alexander Kirienko (Milan, Italy) - Ilizarov Tibia

There are 4 of them each leg. I don’t know if hinge is the correct term in english. In italian we call it
“snodo”

Don’t mind the dirt, it’s sticky from the patches.
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Posted on Nov 29, 2023, 3:53 pm
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Quote from: Beemer m3 on November 29, 2023, 01:49:34 PMare you going to bone consolidate with the frames on? i wonder why is that?
What else could he do? We are talking about pure externals here.

For 6cm you will need close to 9 months if you have a normal consolidation.  For 6.5cm you will need about 20 days more so closer to 10 months. 8 months is too optimistic especially for 6.5cm.
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