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Posted on Sep 19, 2015, 5:00 pm
#21
im looking to do femurs and tibias at the same time.. will dr solomin perform this?
im looking at just 3cm on femurs and 4 or 5 on tibias.. for proportion sakes..
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Posted on Oct 5, 2015, 1:31 pm
#22
Hi guys, found the link 4 this site from Russian forum. I m not looking 4 doing LL, I m going 2 do legs correction. Now choosing between several doctors. Dr Kulesh is also in my list. But haven't met any of his patients after LL. Only varus leg correction. The results are fine. But there are other doctors in Russia, didn't find any information about them in your site. Barinov was never in my list, because the patients in Russian forum have very bad results after him and he doesn't care.
In the same Volgograd there is dr Teterin which does LL and varus correction and dr Kaplunov also does LL and correction. Kaplunov also is in my list. If to trust his patients, none of them had orthopedic problems after LL and legscorrection.
What about Kurgan. The people in that site say, that Kurgan is terrible now, and the doctors don't care any more about the results after operation. One of the girls in that site still got bad problems with her foot, can't walk normal.
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Posted on Oct 5, 2015, 2:12 pm
#23
Quote from: Sandra on October 05, 2015, 01:31:37 PMHi guys, found the link 4 this site from Russian forum. I m not looking 4 doing LL, I m going 2 do legs correction. Now choosing between several doctors. Dr Kulesh is also in my list. But haven't met any of his patients after LL. Only varus leg correction. The results are fine. But there are other doctors in Russia, didn't find any information about them in your site. Barinov was never in my list, because the patients in Russian forum have very bad results after him and he doesn't care.
In the same Volgograd there is dr Teterin which does LL and varus correction and dr Kaplunov also does LL and correction. Kaplunov also is in my list. If to trust his patients, none of them had orthopedic problems after LL and legscorrection.
What about Kurgan. The people in that site say, that Kurgan is terrible now, and the doctors don't care any more about the results after operation. One of the girls in that site still got bad problems with her foot, can't walk normal.

Hello Sandra,

can you tell us more about these russian doctors. In which city/town are they? And what do they charge for LL?
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Posted on Oct 5, 2015, 2:39 pm
#24
Hi jfk,I ll go on their websites later and write here the prices from their sites. Can leave the links here, but the sites r in Russian


So here is the link for dr Teterins site. It's in Russian, English and French.
http://www.cosmcenter.com/en/index.php
There are photos and contacts. In Russian site where the patients share information about LL and legs correction, they say, that Barinov was Teterins student( he teaches in university also), and then Teterin took him to work to his hospital. Then they had some arguments and Barinov left and opened his own clinic. The Russian patients share their photos on their sites and very upset with results. The prices at Teterin are not as expensive as dr Bagirovs. And the patients can stay in the hospital for a long time or rent an apartment somewhere close to the hospital.

Here is dr Kaplunov s website, it's in Russian but u can put it on google translate.
http://www.каплунов.рф
Works with his father, both are very good doctors.Does LL, bow and X-legs correction, and other orthopedic surgeries. There are some photos of his patients on his site before and after LL.
The prises for LL used to be about 200000 Russian rubles with staying in hospital for 6 weeks. If longer u pay 1520 rubles a day or rent an apartment near the hospital or go back home. If I do correction at this doctor I ll go home after 6 weeks and come back later. The prise is for Russia and ex Soviet Union countries, it might b different for other citizens. Need to ask, but I don't think it ll b too much expensive.
Both these doctors work in Volgograd.
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Posted on Nov 5, 2015, 5:46 am
#25
Dear friend!
Before we begin to discuss your questions, I ask you kindly to take note of the following.
For patients from other countries we may perform the operation of legs lengthening in two clinics in Saint Petersburg: Saint Elisabeth Hospital and Clinic MEDEM.

In-clinic stage

Saint Elisabeth Hospital (municipal clinic)
Website: http://elizahosp.ru/
Address: Vavilovich str., b. 14 (M Akademicheskaya)
Total cost of in-clinic stage (2 weeks in clinic): approximately 194.000 or 201.000 rubles http://elizahosp.ru/pol-price.html
Cost of one day in clinic: 4.100 rubles (single room) or 4.700 (lux room) http://elizahosp.ru/mini-gospital.html
English speaker staff: absent
Visa invitation and support: no
Papers from clinic: only in Russian
Training: 1.000 rubles for 1 training (additional cost)
Transfer: additional cost

Clinic MEDEM (private clinic)
Website: http://medem.ru/en/
Address: Marata str., b. 6 (center of the city)
Total cost of in-clinic stage (2 weeks in clinic): approximately 370.000-500.000 rubles
Cost of one day in clinic: 8.532 rubles (double room), 11.340 rubles (single room), 19.872 rubles (lux room)
English speaker staff: present
Visa invitation and support: present
Papers from clinic: in Russian, in English
Training: 2.970 rubles for 1 training (included)
Transfer: additional cost

It is possible to perform the procedure in Clinic MEDEM and transferee the patient to Saint Elisabeth Hospital in 2-4 days after operation.

Out-clinic stage

Training: 1.000 rubles for 1 training (additional cost).
Change bandages: 1.000 rubles for 1 procedure (usually – 2-3 times per a week).
Professor consultation (every 2-4 weeks) - 4.000-5.000 rubles (examinations included).

We can help to rent the apartments (rent is approximate 20-30.000 rubles per month) and about 17.000 rubles payment for realtor. Food (housemaid) - 300-350 euro per month.

Hotel for the patients after operation (we beg your pardon – site in Russian only): (http://www.atomprof-hotel.ru).
Rooms (daily cleaning and breakfast is included in the price): 135.000 rubles per month - 
 food (restaurant) - about 600 rubles per a day x 30 days = 18.000 rubles per mont

This list will be relooked every 10th date of the month.

05 November 2015

Thank you for your attention.
Best regards, dr kulesh.

edit:  excessive links for hotel.
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Posted on Feb 24, 2016, 6:45 am
#26
Quote from: Sandra on October 05, 2015, 02:39:07 PMHi jfk,I ll go on their websites later and write here the prices from their sites. Can leave the links here, but the sites r in Russian


So here is the link for dr Teterins site. It's in Russian, English and French.
http://www.cosmcenter.com/en/index.php
There are photos and contacts. In Russian site where the patients share information about LL and legs correction, they say, that Barinov was Teterins student( he teaches in university also), and then Teterin took him to work to his hospital. Then they had some arguments and Barinov left and opened his own clinic. The Russian patients share their photos on their sites and very upset with results. The prices at Teterin are not as expensive as dr Bagirovs. And the patients can stay in the hospital for a long time or rent an apartment somewhere close to the hospital.

Here is dr Kaplunov s website, it's in Russian but u can put it on google translate.
http://www.каплунов.рф
Works with his father, both are very good doctors.Does LL, bow and X-legs correction, and other orthopedic surgeries. There are some photos of his patients on his site before and after LL.
The prises for LL used to be about 200000 Russian rubles with staying in hospital for 6 weeks. If longer u pay 1520 rubles a day or rent an apartment near the hospital or go back home. If I do correction at this doctor I ll go home after 6 weeks and come back later. The prise is for Russia and ex Soviet Union countries, it might b different for other citizens. Need to ask, but I don't think it ll b too much expensive.
Both these doctors work in Volgograd.


Tetrins or Kaplunov?which is better?

Thank you
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Posted on Feb 25, 2016, 2:04 am
#27
Please, give more information about other alternative russian doctors. Thanks!...
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Posted on Jun 7, 2016, 12:27 pm
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Would it be possible for a 2016 Update maybe Dr Leonid N. Solomin (St. Petersburg, Russia) 2015 Update Dr Leonid N. Solomin (St. Petersburg, Russia) 2015 Update?
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Posted on Jun 9, 2016, 10:36 pm
#29
A 2016 update?Dr Leonid N. Solomin (St. Petersburg, Russia) 2015 Update
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Posted on Oct 17, 2016, 10:01 pm
#30
2016 Price update after emailing professor Leonid N. Solomin

Preoperative orthopedic examination

professor consultation – 1.200 rubles
x-ray examination – 4.000 rubles
ultrasound examination – 1.500 rubles

Surgery + 3 days in Clinic

Clinic:
in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 278.400 rubles
+ 8.532x3=25.596 rubles (double room) = 304.000 rubles
+ 11.340x3=34.020 rubles (single room) = 312.500 rubles
+ 19.872x3=59.616 rubles (lux room) = 338.000 rubles
in St. Elizabeth Hosp.
142.000 (single room)
149.000 (lux room)

The 3rd day after operation – the 14th day after operation

Location of the patient:
We recommend:
in hospital (in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 4.100 rubles per a day (single room) or 4.700 rubles per a day (lux room), in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 8.532 rubles per a day (double room), 11.340 rubles per a day (single room), 19.872 rubles per a day (lux room)
We consider admissible:
in hotel (1.000 – 6.000 rubles per a day)
in apartment (25.000-40.000 rubles a month); the housemaid daily - 7.000 rubles a week, every other day - 4.500 rubles a week, 2 times a week - 2.000 rubles a week
In case of any complications – emergency hospitalization to hospital.

Additional medicines:
We recommend:
Fraxiparine - 1 injection per a day during 10 days after operation (300 rubles for injection in St. Elizabeth Hosp.; in Int. Clinic MEDEM - free of charge)
Pradaxa – 1 tablets per a day from the 11th day after operation (2.000 rubles a month)
Perfalgan – 1 dropper a day 5-10 times after operation (200 rubles for dropper in St. Elizabeth Hosp.; in Int. Clinic MEDEM - free of charge if it is required)
Linex - 6 tablets per a day during 10-14 days after operation (1.000 rubles a week in St. Elizabeth Hosp; in Int. Clinic MEDEM - free of charge if it is required)
We consider admissible:
Fragmin (instead of Fraxiparine) - 4 injections a day during 10 days after operation in St. Elizabeth Hosp. (free of charge)
Pradaxa (for out-patients) – 1 tablets per a day for out-patients (2.000 rubles a month)
Paracetamol (instead of Perfalgan) – 1 tablets per a day (in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - free of charge if it is required, 200 rubles a week for out-patient)
Amoxiclav (for out-patients) – 3 tablets per a day + Linex 6 tablets per a day during 7-11 days after operation (2.000 rubles a week for outpatient)

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Changing bandages:
We recommend:
Changing bandages by doctor - 2-3 times a week (cost of 1 changing bandages - 1.500 rubles in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and for outpatients; 4.320 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM (no matter – 1 or 2 frames)
To pay tailoring of a cover on the frame (2.000 for 1 cover). We recommend to buy 2 covers for every frame.
To pay for the foot holders (600 rubles)
We consider admissible:
Changing bandages by patient - 1-2 times a week (cost of materials and solutions – 500 rubles for 1 changing bandages) + changing bandages by doctor once a week (cost of 1 changing bandages - 1.500 rubles in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and for outpatients; 4.320 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM (no matter – 1 or 2 frames)
Cover the frames with bandages instead of covers after every change bandages (400 rubles a week)
In case of inflammation the distraction can be slowed down, temporarily stopped, prematurely complete; perhaps, one or several additional operations are required.

Trainings/physiotherapy:
We recommend:
Training every day or every other day with trainer (1 training – 1.000 rubles for 1 training in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and outpatients; 3.000 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM)
Buy walkers (3.000-4.000 rubles)
Buy wheelchair (15.000 rubles) and office-chair (5.000 rubles)
We consider admissible:
Self-trainings or trainings with the trainer less than we recommend (1 training – 1.000 rubles for 1 training in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and outpatients; 3.000 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM)
Buy crutches (2.000 rubles)
In case of joints stiffness the distraction can be slowed down, temporarily stopped, prematurely complete; perhaps, one or several additional operations are required.

Consultation by professor:
We recommend:
In 5-7 days after the beginning of distraction (in 10-12 days after operation) (x-ray included: in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 3.000 rubles, in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 5.000 rubles, 2.500-4.000 rubles for out-patients).
The cost of a transfer depends on the place of residence.
We consider admissible:
In 5-7 days after the beginning of distraction (in 10-12 days after operation) (x-ray included: in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 3.000 rubles, in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 5.000 rubles, 2.500-4.000 rubles for out-patients).
The cost of a transfer depends on the place of residence.

Visa support (only for Int. Clinic MEDEM outpatients):
Payment every month - 3.500 rubles, payment for visa prolongation (usually - once every 3 months) – 17.000 rubles

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The 15th day after operation – completion of manipulations in frames

Location of the patient:
We recommend:
in hotel (1.000 – 6.000 rubles per a day)
in apartment (25.000-40.000 rubles a month); the housemaid daily - 7.000 rubles a week, every other day - 4.500 rubles a week
We consider admissible:
in hospital (in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 4.100 rubles per a day (single room) or 4.700 a day (lux room), in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 8.532 rubles per a day (double room), 11.340 rubles per a day (single room), 19.872 rubles per a day (lux room)
in apartment (30.000-40.000 rubles a month); the housemaid 2 times a week - 2.000 rubles a week
at home
In case of any complications – emergency hospitalization to hospital.

Additional medicines:
We recommend:
Pradaxa – 1 tablets per a day (2.000 rubles a month)
We consider admissible:
Pradaxa – 1 tablets per a day (2.000 rubles a month)
Food supplements

Changing bandages:
We recommend:
Changing bandages - 2-3 times a week (cost of 1 changing bandages - 1.500 rubles in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and for outpatients; 4.320 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM (no matter – 1 or 2 frames)
Washing of covers once a week
We consider admissible:
Changing bandages by patient - 1-2 times a week (cost of materials and solutions – 500 rubles for 1 changing bandages) + changing bandages by doctor once a week (cost of 1 changing bandages - 1.500 rubles in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and for outpatients; 4.320 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM (no matter – 1 or 2 frames)
Changing bandages by patient - 3 times a week (for the outpatients at home)
Cover the frames with bandages instead of covers after every change bandages (400 rubles a week)
In case of inflammation the distraction can be slowed down, temporarily stopped, prematurely complete; perhaps, one or several additional operations are required.

Trainings/physiotherapy:
We recommend:
Training 2-3 times a week with trainer (1 training – 1.000 rubles for 1 training in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and outpatients; 3.000 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM)
To have a walkers (3.000-4.000 rubles) and crutches (2.000 rubles)
To have a wheelchair (15.000 rubles)  and office-chair (5.000 rubles)
We consider admissible:
Self-trainings or trainings with the trainer less than we recommend (1 training – 1.000 rubles for 1 training in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and outpatients; 3.000 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM)
To have crutches (2.000 rubles)
In case of joints stiffness the distraction can be slowed down, temporarily stopped, prematurely complete; perhaps, one or several additional operations are required.

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Consultation by professor:
We recommend:   
Once in 10-20 days (x-ray included: in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 3.000 rubles, in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 5.000 rubles, 2.500-4.000 rubles for out-patients).
The cost of a transfer depends on the place of residence.
We consider admissible:
Once in 20-30 days by e-mail (for the outpatients at home) - free of charge.
The cost of a transfer depends on the place of residence.

Manipulations in frames (distraction and correction):
We recommend:
Lengthening no more than 10% of the initial length of a bone.
After finishing of lengthening – perform installation of the reduction module, to eliminate translation of bone fragments or deformity (setting the reduction module – 3.000 rubles, remove the reduction module – 3.000 rubles, calculations – 500 rubles for 1 frame at once)
We consider admissible:
Lengthening no more than 20% of the initial length of a bone.
After finishing of lengthening – perform installation of the reduction module, to eliminate translation of bone fragments or deformity (setting the reduction module – 3.000 rubles, remove the reduction module – 3.000 rubles, calculations – 500 rubles for 1 frame at once)
The correction is possible only in the absence of contractures of joints and a possibility of the patient to stand on the straightened legs.
In case of hypotrophic regenerate the distraction can be slowed down, temporarily stopped, prematurely complete; perhaps, one or several additional operations are required.


completion of manipulations in frames – removal of frames
Location of the patient:
We recommend:
in hotel (1.000 – 6.000 rubles per a day)
in apartment 25.000-40.000 rubles a month); the housemaid every other day - 4.500 rubles a week, 2 times a week - 2.000 rubles a week
We consider admissible:
in hospital (in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 4.100 rubles per a day (single room) or 4.700 a day (lux room), in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 8.532 rubles per a day (double room), 11.340 rubles per a day (single room), 19.872 rubles per a day (lux room)
in apartment (30.000-40.000 rubles a month); the housemaid daily - 7.000 rubles a week
at home
In case of any complications – emergency hospitalization to hospital.

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Changing bandages:
We recommend:
Changing bandages - 1-3 times a week (cost of 1 changing bandages - 1.500 rubles in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and for outpatients; 4.320 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM (no matter – 1 or 2 frames)
Washing of covers once a week
We consider admissible:
Changing bandages by patient - 1-2 times a week (cost of materials and solutions – 500 rubles for 1 changing bandages) + changing bandages by doctor once a week (cost of 1 changing bandages - 1.500 rubles in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and for outpatients; 4.320 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM (no matter – 1 or 2 frames)
Changing bandages by patient - 3 times a week (for the patients at home)
Cover the frames with bandages instead of covers after every change bandages (400 rubles a week)
In case of inflammation one or several additional operations are required.

Trainings/physiotherapy:
We recommend:
Training 2-3 times a week with trainer (1 training – 1.000 rubles for 1 training in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and outpatients; 3.000 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM)
To have a walkers (3.000-4.000 rubles) and crutches (2.000 rubles)
To have a wheelchair (15.000 rubles)  and office-chair (5.000 rubles)
We consider admissible:
Self-trainings or trainings with the trainer less than we recommend (1 training – 1.000 rubles for 1 training in St. Elizabeth Hosp. and outpatients; 3.000 rubles in Int. Clinic MEDEM)
To have crutches (2.000 rubles)
In case of malunion or non-union one or several additional operations are required.
In case of deep infection, one or several additional operations are required.

Consultation by professor:
We recommend:
Once in month (x-ray included: in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 3.000 rubles, in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 5.000 rubles, 2.500-4.000 rubles for out-patients).
The cost of a transfer depends on the place of residence.
We consider admissible:
Once in 2 months (x-ray included: in St. Elizabeth Hosp. - 3.000 rubles, in Int. Clinic MEDEM - 5.000 rubles, 2.500-4.000 rubles for out-patients).
The cost of a transfer depends on the place of residence.
Once in month by e-mail (for the outpatients at home) - free of charge.


1. To the housemaid the cost of products isn't included in a payment (the approximate cost of products You may look on the website https://www.okeydostavka.ru/spb2)
2. Int. Clinic MEDEM usually provides discounts to the foreign patients. Discount in St. Elizabeth Hosp. is possible too.
3. We assume that it will be cheaper to get a second-hand wheelchair, office chair, walkers and crutches
4. The approximate cost of drugs is specified. You may look on the website http://www.eapteka.ru/
5. We would recommend to assume quantity of money 10-20% more than calculated
6. Surgery + 10 days in Clinic (minimum) in Int. Clinic MEDEM (278.400 rubles + 8.532x10 = 364.000 rubles) in St. Elizabeth Hosp. (142.000 rubles + 4.100x10 = 183.000 rubles)
7. We can perform External Fixation surgery on 2 segments at once
8. In case of complication additional operation costs approximately as much as primary
9. The advance payment is 150.000-200.000 rubles (in St. Elizabeth Hosp.) and 300.000 – 400.000 rubles (in Int. Clinic MEDEM).

 

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