Quote from: Body Builder on February 14, 2023, 11:08:38 PMAnd many tragic cases too. Also fitbone is the most unreliable nail ever so any doctor that still uses it is a big no for me.
Also I can't understand why some of you rank Guichet anything more than the worst tier.
The money he wants are almost the same as Paley, who is the best LL doctor in the world, and had many terrific cases that we only hear in third world countries.
For me only a fool would give so much money to go Guichet.
And also Becker is a new doctor in LL. Of course he can't be a top tier compared to trauma doctors with much experience like Giotikas, Pili etc.
And finally, merchants like Derbipashad can't be top tier for that and only, even if they are good doctors which I doubt because top.doctors don't need merchandise.
In a few words, I completely disagree with most of the lists above.
Giotikas was attractive until he had a dead patient.
Quote from: kamaruusman on April 07, 2023, 06:38:52 AMGiotikas was attractive until he had a dead patient.
Do you have more info about it? I never heard it before and it is very important to know if it is true and what was the reason.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 08, 2023, 12:24:22 AMDo you have more info about it? I never heard it before and it is very important to know if it is true and what was the reason.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=71100.msg219710#msg219710
Btw, OP should replace Giotikas with Dr. Leonid Solomin. You can't have a dead patient after only performing so few surgeries and be A-tier.
Fat embolism is a risk for any LL procedure. And Giotikas did many LL surgeries, not a few as you wrote.
Also Betz and Guichet had dead patients from the same reason.
Finally, Solomin? Good luck with going to the scam and terrorist place called Russia at 2023 to do LL. I would only go there if my only other choices were India and Turkey. It can't be compared with Greece or any other EU country though.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 08, 2023, 11:37:54 AMFat embolism is a risk for any LL procedure. And Giotikas did many LL surgeries, not a few as you wrote.
Also Betz and Guichet had dead patients from the same reason.
Finally, Solomin? Good luck with going to the scam and terrorist place called Russia at 2023 to do LL. I would only go there if my only other choices were India and Turkey. It can't be compared with Greece or any other EU country though.
It's a risk. But good doctors would be able to minimize such risks. Paley has done over 25k++ osteotomy cases and not a single death? Giotikas how many has he done? A couple of hundreds and already a dead patient? In my opinion, it's a red flag.
Dr. Solomin is a more experienced doctor who's been doing it since the 80s but regarding the place, yeah that could be an issue for this time but I was merely talking about the surgeon itself.
I'm not saying that Dr. Giotikas is the worst surgeon, but after a dead case in such a short career, I feel that he might not be the best option.
I agree with all these. But as far as I know, Giotikas use anticoagulant shots for 20 days after the surgery while other doctors don't even use. So I think that he does his best to avoid this tragic incident. I really wonder what happened with this case.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 08, 2023, 01:21:26 PMI agree with all these. But as far as I know, Giotikas use anticoagulant shots for 20 days after the surgery while other doctors don't even use. So I think that he does his best to avoid this tragic incident. I really wonder what happened with this case.
He talked about it briefly in this interview at around 32:45 and seems that he doesn't want to reveal too much about it.
By the way, Dr. Franz Birkholtz should probably be A-tier as well.
He can't really say more than that in the interview, because his not allowed to. If he was hiding something, he would have denied it and lied in the interview.
As he states, some higher law inforcement agency (don't know the correct term lol) actually checked the situation following up the incident and came to the conclusion that this wasn't his or his teams fault, but simply happened even tho all safety precautions was taken. This has also happened to alot of other surgeons, but many of them just ain't gonna be honest about it, and that is even worse. Espically surgeons in Turkey and India. It's a part of this surgery that your're running a extremely low risk of dying and Dr G even points this out before surgery, not like many other crap surgeons who never openly talks about potiential complications and the risk here of.
Good luck finding a surgeon with more experience, who is more honest and is taking more precautions by doing things in a certain way to avoid complications, for a better more reasonable price than dr Giotikas in Europe. It ain't gonna happen at least for now...
Can somebody finally ban werewolf pls
Quote from: DanishViking on April 08, 2023, 08:33:26 PMHe can't really say more than that in the interview, because his not allowed to. If he was hiding something, he would have denied it and lied in the interview.
As he states, some higher law inforcement agency (don't know the correct term lol) actually checked the situation following up the incident and came to the conclusion that this wasn't his or his teams fault, but simply happened even tho all safety precautions was taken. This has also happened to alot of other surgeons, but many of them just ain't gonna be honest about it, and that is even worse. Espically surgeons in Turkey and India. It's a part of this surgery that your're running a extremely low risk of dying and Dr G even points this out before surgery, not like many other crap surgeons who never openly talks about potiential complications and the risk here of.
Good luck finding a surgeon with more experience, who is more honest and is taking more precautions by doing things in a certain way to avoid complications, for a better more reasonable price than dr Giotikas in Europe. It ain't gonna happen at least for now...
Yeah sure on paper he might not be at fault. But we don't know if their country's safety precautions are up to US standards. And if he was doing the things that were not necessarily required by the regulations but necessary for the patient's best interest and safety.
The point is this, Paley has performed over 25k cases and no death while Giotikas who has only performed hundreds of cases and already had a patient died in his hands.
It's probable that Paley has just been extremely lucky all this time and Giotikas just had the worst luck. But it's also probable that Giotikas just doesn't offer the same level of safety for this surgery.
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