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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 12:30 pm
#41

Let me tell you what you should stay away from instead of S tiers.

Doctors and companies to avoid:

1- Athensbjr - Giotikas
2- Livelifetaller - Halil buldu - Sedat
3- Wannabetaller - Yunus
4- Yuksel Yurttas
5- Limblengthening-center - Serkan Gurcan
6- Lengthening Turkey - Fatih arslanoglu
7- AFA - Mustafa uysal
8- Stay away from countries like egypt - iran - india - greece - armenia - russia
You will be fine if you operate on any doctor except those on this list.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 1:37 pm
#42

@sigma
How do you know that Giotikas is a bad doctor?
I am considering doing This surgery with him in Greece, can you please tell me what you know?
I Would be thankfull if you or maybe others with bad experience can give me Some information.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 1:53 pm
#43

Quote from: Zib on April 21, 2023, 01:37:08 PM@sigma
How do you know that Giotikas is a bad doctor?
I am considering doing This surgery with him in Greece, can you please tell me what you know?
I Would be thankfull if you or maybe others with bad experience can give me Some information.

Dr. Giotikas is kind of new in this cosmetic lengthening industry and I think he's one of the very few doctors which had a death case, so it's quite normal for people to feel skeptical about him.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 2:01 pm
#44

Quote from: Zib on April 21, 2023, 01:37:08 PM@sigma
How do you know that Giotikas is a bad doctor?
I am considering doing This surgery with him in Greece, can you please tell me what you know?
I Would be thankfull if you or maybe others with bad experience can give me Some information.
I've sent you a pm.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 2:01 pm
#45

Quote from: n0quarter on April 21, 2023, 01:53:49 PMDr. Giotikas is kind of new in this cosmetic lengthening industry and I think he's one of the very few doctors which had a death case, so it's quite normal for people to feel skeptical about him.
You are so right bro. I agree.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 6:45 pm
#46

Quote from: Sigma on April 21, 2023, 12:30:03 PMLet me tell you what you should stay away from instead of S tiers.

Doctors and companies to avoid:

1- Athensbjr - Giotikas
2- Livelifetaller - Halil buldu - Sedat
3- Wannabetaller - Yunus
4- Yuksel Yurttas
5- Limblengthening-center - Serkan Gurcan
6- Lengthening Turkey - Fatih arslanoglu
7- AFA - Mustafa uysal
8- Stay away from countries like egypt - iran - india - greece - armenia - russia
You will be fine if you operate on any doctor except those on this list.

Really good idea. I'd add Guichet and Betz/Becker to this list. Guichet has plenty of history, including Unicorn's case, and I just don't believe Betz adheres to sound safety principles by allowing for 10cm+ lengthening and performing CLL without ITB release. His procedures are contrarian to pretty much everything other doctors do and prescribe.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 6:55 pm
#47

I forgot the source this one time.



Enjoying your boring and lonely life wolf? Dr tierlist

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 8:52 pm
#48

Quote from: Sigma on April 21, 2023, 02:01:42 PMYou are so right bro. I agree.

Quote from: Trueman on April 21, 2023, 07:30:21 PMStill shamelessly advertising dr gliokas. Dude, if you give that doctor an extra 10 thousand euros, he'll give you a bj.
I'm starting to feel sorry for you. I think you have mental problems. still continuing to advertise and showing a youtube video as proof of what a butcher doctor said...

Username: Sigma, Trueman, annd Werewolf are the same people. He is getting banned and making new accounts. For some reason he is constantly disparaging other doctors, for who knows what reason. Ignore and report.

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023, 9:59 pm
#49

Quote from: shortisnotfun on April 21, 2023, 08:52:37 PMUsername: Sigma, Trueman, annd Werewolf are the same people. He is getting banned and making new accounts. For some reason he is constantly disparaging other doctors, for who knows what reason. Ignore and report.
You are slandering me.

Quote from: Sigma on April 21, 2023, 01:32:54 PMThanks for being honest. I hope you get better and back to normal soon.
This was the well-wisher post I wrote in your diary, but you accused me of being a troll just for writing about gliokas. You're obviously not a smart person. The date I became a member is 2022. This troll registered today... Just because I said I don't like the gliokas butcher, you accuse me of being a troll. If you were a smart person anyway, you would not have surgery to someone like Dr Yuksel Yurttas. Once you were defending him, now you are defending gliokas. I also think that you are advertising that you are included in the gliokas team and that you are trying to glorify the doctor. Just think before you slander people. but it takes intelligence. People who don't like Gliokas are all the same person lol.

Quote from: Sigma on April 21, 2023, 10:58:58 PMSorry for this post you don't deserve this. I didn't know that every doctor you went to had a staff member. You were one of his team praising Dr Yuksel. You are now on the gliokas team. But don't bother. Nobody goes to the doctor with dead patients. Also, according to you, Dr. Yuksel Yurttas was once a very good doctor. Until it cripples you. Congratulations on living with this intelligence until now. You are someone who will do anything to defend your doctor. It's like slandering people. You told the people who were disabled by Dr. Yuksel that it was their fault and you didn't want your doctor to be insulted. Now you're doing the same thing to dr gliokas... You are not reliable, anything you say will no longer be believed. Also, despite your disability, you continued to praise Dr Yuksel and concealed it. Because you were going to be treated, but you couldn't agree on the price and went to gliokas. Now gliokas will use it to advertise to you in this forum. Because you went to the butcher's doctor, which is never preferred and loved in Turkey, and you became crippled. Now you will be the patient healed by miracle doctor gliokas lol. It will make good advertisements to people. "Look, this is what happens if you go to Turkey (although you went to the most butcher doctor.) I correct and heal those who have complications in Turkey." keep praising gliokas on the forum. But this will not change the facts of the dead and the crippled.
I just wrote this in your diary. I'm including it here so people can see who and what you are. When pointing and accusing someone, your index finger points to him and the other three fingers point to you... Think carefully before blaming someone. Learn from what you've been through.

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Posted on Apr 22, 2023, 1:14 am
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Quote from: Sigma on April 21, 2023, 09:59:26 PMYou are slandering me.
This was the well-wisher post I wrote in your diary, but you accused me of being a troll just for writing about gliokas. You're obviously not a smart person. The date I became a member is 2022. This troll registered today... Just because I said I don't like the gliokas butcher, you accuse me of being a troll. If you were a smart person anyway, you would not have surgery to someone like Dr Yuksel Yurttas. Once you were defending him, now you are defending gliokas. I also think that you are advertising that you are included in the gliokas team and that you are trying to glorify the doctor. Just think before you slander people. but it takes intelligence. People who don't like Gliokas are all the same person lol.
I just wrote this in your diary. I'm including it here so people can see who and what you are. When pointing and accusing someone, your index finger points to him and the other three fingers point to you... Think carefully before blaming someone. Learn from what you've been through.

Who are the best cll surgeons in Europe in your opinion?
Or is Dr Donghon Lee my best bet if I want to do it for around 60-80k dollars or should I just save more to do it at Paley?

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