Quote from: Highest on January 19, 2022, 02:13:28 AMIs there any chance you are just short because of parents or grandparents or did your condition also stunt you arm bone growth?
I don’t have any short relatives, so that’s unlikely. Besides, I was also diagnosed with this thing.
As far as I can tell from my reading, precocious puberty stunts growth of the extremities but not the torso and other bones.
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 19, 2022, 03:10:27 AMI don’t have any short relatives, so that’s unlikely. Besides, I was also diagnosed with this thing.
As far as I can tell from my reading, precocious puberty stunts growth of the extremities but not the torso and other bones.
Interesting, how do they diagnose precocious puberty? If you would have gotten treatment when you first noticed at 13 or 14 would that have made much difference to your current height?
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 18, 2022, 04:19:18 PMHer intent wasn't malicious, but inadvertently, yes. Growing up, I was projected to be about 6'1-6'3, so my mother would openly talk about how happy she is that I was going to be tall, especially taller than my dad (who was 6'0, and my mom felt she "compromised" when it came to height there). She would also talk about how she'd never date short men, how men around 5'6-5'7 were undesirable or unmanly, talk disgusted about men that height, etc. She told me how women universally dislike short men, how they wouldn't date them regardless of how nice and successful they are, etc. I developed a deep sadness and sympathy towards shorter men, but I was determined that I would never end up there myself. To her, the ideal height is 6'2-6'3, which she made clear to me in childhood; thus, height became an issue of crucial, massive importance to me, and I started doing everything I could to meet or exceed my projected adult height. The thought that I might only reach 6'0 became scary and concerning to me. Thus, when I reached the age of 5'5 to 5'6 at the age of 12, shooting up above almost all of my male classmates in middle-school, I was ecstatic, since I knew I'd make it to that magical 6'3 mark or higher. Unfortunately, the radically unexpected happened, and I seemed to just stop growing out of nowhere. I asked my mother what was happening, and she said there was no problem, that I'd keep growing; my father said the same thing. I became panicked, pestering them to please let me see a specialist as I needed to be tall, but they never listened. Eventually, I figured I'd just listen to and trust them, putting my fears aside until 17-18, when I became anxious at the fact I still wasn't growing. So, they took me into an endocrinologist, measured my height at 5'7, took a look at my growth plates, and confirmed the fact that my height growth was over. The problem they diagnosed me with was precocious/early puberty, a condition that happens in about 0.02% of all adolescents where puberty happens far too early and stunts adult height between about 6-8 inches.
When the news came, I became violently angry and smashed my mother's windshield. She kept trying to reassure me over a span of months to years that there was nothing wrong with my height, that I was fine, etc. but I knew this was an obvious lie, since she always told me differently growing up. My dad, on the other hand, couldn't even comprehend what I was feeling. Eventually, however, I discovered LL, and my hope for life was completely renewed. Since then, I've dedicated myself to a bare minimum height of 6'1 and the dream height of 6'3.
My parents still try to dissuade me from time to time, especially my mother, but occasionally she still shows her true colors. One time when my parents were visiting my apartment, she was talking about Tom Cruise, saying she'd never date him since he's far too short--expressing massive disgust at the very prospect. I kept my tongue, quietly looking up his height and finding he was 0.75" taller than me at 5'7.75". When I voiced this, I thought she'd get my point, but she simply stayed quiet and never retracted her words. After that, it became clear to me that I would never be satisfied with the height I'm at: I needed to be 6" taller at the minimum. Since then, I've added about 0.5" from posture and stretching exercises so that I can get much closer to that 6'2-6'3 mark after LL.
Anyways, that's my story. My only concern is that my athletic performance is also absolutely and completely paramount: I won't just be satisfied with full recovery of my athleticism post LL; on the contrary, I need to continue to get bigger, faster, and stronger even years after my surgery. Both my goals of immense strength/speed and height are mandatory, and I won't settle for one or the other.
Jesus... If you don't mind to comment on your mother like that, I still gotta say your mother is totally a maniac about heightism... Too crazy and un-fking-believable... I never saw any mother imposing her thoughts that weird into her child even in the childhood.. That could've been called mental abuse mate. Even in China I never heard of that horrible story.
Forget her. I wonder why you suffered from precocious puberty. AFIK precocious puberty is a genetic disease out of individual's control so I am very sorry to hear that. And.. yeah, I gotta admit it that LL can reduce the burdens onto your mind to a great extent. But you can't get taller up to anything like 6'2-6'3.. That is impossible unless we are talking about Paley's Option 3, the Option that I am also planning on for I am being too short so it will be inevitable.
But prior to doing LL I suggest you to go for a shrink and it is not a satire.. Since you have suffered from mental abuse in the childhood, shrinks may help you on this and you should talk with him/her about your mom and she is really pathetic to teach extreme views of man's value to you and for sure they may have been ingrained in your mind that you are overemphasizing man's height than normal but I am not a psychologist so I can't help you just by texting sorry.
But we have something in common that our moms are also dissuding us from emphasizing heights although my mom has ever called my gf who is around 140cm tall 'disabled' and that's why I am also thinking she is foxing me and even herself and her true colors were revealed at that moment.
It is what it is, and there’s no point in wasting thought on what happened; yes, if they intervened early enough, I’d likely be over 6’, but now it’s time to think about are solutions, not what could’ve been. And my solutions are this: external tibias with either Dr. Catagni or Dr. Solomin for 7.5 cm. After that, I spend a couple years fully recovering my athleticism and getting strong than I was pre-op. Then, if I’m still bothered by things, I’ll fly over to Germany and do 8 cm on my femurs with Dr. Betz. That’ll put me well over 6’1 and close to 6’2. If I notice my arms are too short for deadlifts, then I’ll do 5 cm of arm lengthening per segment on either my forearms or humerus. However, this is all too early to tell: rn, I’ll focus on my ACL surgery, then I’ll do my external tibias later this year or next year if I think I can handle it.
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 18, 2022, 04:19:18 PM.One time when my parents were visiting my apartment, she was talking about Tom Cruise, saying she'd never date him since he's far too short--expressing massive disgust at the very prospect. I kept my tongue, quietly looking up his height and finding he was 0.75" taller than me at 5'7.75". When I voiced this, I thought she'd get my point, but she simply stayed quiet and never retracted her words.
I hate to badmouth other people, especially about others parents, but your mother sounds like a horrible person. Ridiculous what your mother says about Tom Cruise. As long as she's not an A celebrity model, he wouldn't give her a second of his time. How tall is your mum btw?
As the other user said: Before doing anything with LL I would highly advise you to see a good psychotherapist.
Quote from: Itsme on January 19, 2022, 10:15:18 AMI hate to badmouth other people, especially about others parents, but your mother sounds like a horrible person. Ridiculous what your mother says about Tom Cruise. As long as she's not an A celebrity model, he wouldn't give her a second of his time. How tall is your mum btw?
As the other user said: Before doing anything with LL I would highly advise you to see a good psychotherapist.
My mom is 5'6. However, she's in her mid 50s, so she might've been 5'6.5" or so when she was young.
He knows that I’m sensitive about that matter, but I guess he feels nice over me feeling bad (?). My parents are aware of what he does, and they also know that I have had issues with my height. My mom once offered me support about ll, cause she could not make me feel better about my height dysphoria, which has been already diagnosed.
I don’t get it, you’re mad at me?
Quote from: Camilleglv on January 19, 2022, 03:28:54 PMI don’t get it, you’re mad at me?
I don't understand why he's doing it. Does he have some insecurity he's trying to cover for? Is he mad at you about something?
I don’t feel offended at all, but that ideia sounds a bit ridiculous to me.
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