A couple years ago I was in Nicaragua visiting my dad's side of the family (I honestly think my Nicaraguan genetics is what caused my shortness, 5'7) I met a really cute girl and we had an amazing fling together. Look at this height difference, she is a perfectly normal average 5'2 girl in Nicaragua and yet I, with a 5 inch gain over her, look actually relatively tall. She had no problem with my height whatsoever!!
The reason I'm telling you all this is because I've noticed many of you shorter guys getting super discouraged with your starting height and thinking that you must reach at least 5'9/5'10 or even higher in order to have a chance with girls. I totally disagree and think that once you hit a height like 5'7 or 5'8, yeah you'll be shorter than the average white guy in say the US, but you'll still be way taller than short girls and still taller than the average girl, and maybe even tieing the taller girls who may not mind you being the same height as they are. Just food for thought and I hope this encourages you that if your starting height is 5'3/5'4 for example and you managed to get to 5'7, dang I can tell you for sure you'd notice an improvement! Obviously average heights like 5'9/5'10 in most western countries would be more imposing of heights, but that's not to say that your height at 5'7/5'8 would be insufficient to get a girl interested. One of my best friends has got to be only 5'5, if that, and he gets TONS of girls.... He is usually going after short latinas and they love his personality and charm 
PS> I do realize in a place like the netherlands though, 5'7 may be a bit too short, but how many of you really short guys live there???
For you very short guys, even if you hit 5'7 or 5'8 you'll be fine
Quote from: Herron52 on December 12, 2014, 11:34:29 PMI agree man. I can obviously see how being 6ft would be a perfect height for those of us not fortunate enough to start out at 5'6 or 5'7 it's simply impossible, and that's not such a terrible thing. My dream height is 5'8 with boots or insoles I'll be standing comfortably at 5'9 it's not perfect but three inches isnt a ridiculous difference. I can't say that at that height I could see a 6ft dude coming up to me and commenting on my height as if I were a foot under him you know? I wish guys my height 5'3 would the see advantages in reaching an average height instead of focusing on the statistics
Yeah at 5'8 I'm pretty sure you'd be so happy! You could even throw out the lifts and just wear boots for that final added boost. The truth is though, to woman and other people the lengthened legs will make you appear taller than 5'8. Also, since people's eyes are 4.5 inches down from the top of their head, you at 5'8/5'9 would really not seem significantly shorter through the eyes of 6 footer, only with a mirror nearby is the difference more obvious. I've stood next to plenty of people that I thought were taller than me or the same height to find out I was actually an inch or two taller than them! Once you are average height, I think muscles, posture, body language etc portray to others whether you're strong/alpha or if you can be easily pushed around.
I know exactly what you mean, and by simply slipping on lifts / elevator shoes, you immediately notice the difference in the way you get treated. Yes it is true.
it's true. I've never wanted to be tall and get girls interested in me solely because my height turned them on, I want them interested in who I am. I just want average, give me 5'9.5 or a flat 5'10 to make height a nonissue where you don't think hey he's the tall guy or he's the short, I'm just ME. I want my height to neither detract nor add to my personality, looks etc. I want it to be neutral. Sure being 5'11 and higher has the advantage of being more imposing and whatever but I really don't need that.
Quote from: Blackhawk on January 02, 2015, 12:14:21 AMI agree with this. Being short has held me back. I don't need to be tall and receive the benefits that come with it. I just don't want the negatives of being short.
Exactlyyyy. And I neither want to get a superiority complex and think I'm better than everyone else because I have extra height, which I'll admit would be easy to pick up. Instead I try my absolute best to be the best of friends and understanding of other shorter guys. They go through crap they certainly don't deserve.
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