Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on October 18, 2021, 04:49:57 PMThe irony is that a 5'8 transgender passes better then a 5'10/5'11 one in most peoples opinions.
Anyways guys, update. We went to dinner and we are both still attracted to each other. As we were heading back to the parking garage I pressed her up onto the elevator wall and started passionately kissing her. Then we started making out in her SUV. She told me I need to come sleep over at her apartment soon (her parents dog and new lesbian roommate were there.)
I am torn.
I know that if I get back with this girl and don't get the surgery it will cost me. If she ever decides to leave me I will have a hard time replacing her.
On the other hand if I just tell her we need to do our own thing for a year I can be in the position of power.
She is 25 and a half and she feels like she is ready to settle down.
In other words according to red-pillers she is approaching the wall.
I am currently in security and make 50k a year.
I want to get the surgery and start a new , better life. I want to get into sales or enter the corporate ladder.
I know my odds off success both with the ladies and in managerial positions will be much better if I can gain the height.
I already have very broad shoulders and a muscular physique. With the height I can finally become psuedo-chad.
How do I play this?
I don't want to tell her about the surgery.
I want to be in the position of POWER.
The way things are now...as a 5'8 ethnic man with an average income, she has all the power.
Those are just the facts.
Part of me was like I should have just waited until after the surgery and I got on my feet to get my together.
TLDR;the l
What now?
What is worth it in the long run?
This isn't the 1950's where people stuck with each other through thick and thin.
I know that I will have a much easier time on the dating market at 6'2 instead of 5'8. Period. I know I will have much more confidence then I already do.
No you won't but honestly fine go ahead, have your legs broken up. Just don't come complaining when you realize that no woman will ever want an insecure 6'2 cripple that's drowning in debt due to a surgery he didn't need.
If you were rich maybe that'd be worth. But you're not, so.
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Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on October 15, 2021, 03:59:35 AMI'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Me and my 25 yo blond ex-gf broke up back in March after a bad fight on shrooms.
She dumped me.
We are talking again and going to a dinner on Saturday.
I currently have 19,500 dollars saved up for my trip and am continuing to work hard and save.
On the one hand, if I get back together with my ex-gf I can forget this surgery for now.
On the other if we eventually break up I will regret still being a 5'8 man.
I wish that society wasn't so shallow and height didn't matter as much as it does.
I think it mostly a subconscious thing.
My ex-gf is 5'4.
So, a trade-off is in order.
Do I spend more time in Colorado, in a state where I am already sicK?
Or do I commit to leaving everything behind and coming back at least 6'0 or above and then starting a new life, with a much easier time on the dating scene.
Your opinions and commentary are welcomed.
This is more a suggestion to include in your "menú" :-) of options since I don't know you or her.
Why don't you try the "total honesty" card? Tell her everything , assume you want LL. Tell her also that you really love her (if it's true) and....ASK her opinion!!
She may really appreciate the honesty of your dilemma and the love declaration at the same time. She may even decide to help you and "participate"
And even like you taller!
I would take this risk. And you will be free from headaches and dilemmas.
Able to focus on LL with or without her!All options for complicating strategies I think will bring more worries for you. And this could allmost be a proof of love from her side. But I think total honesty may compensate for any insecurity she may see in you just because you want LL. Compare LL to plastic surgery like correcting thr nose or boops....or just also assume this become a neurosis!
But really show you care about her! And need her word!
You're creating the drama in your head.
This is not a "one or the other" situation. Just tell her that you're doing LL.
In my months in Germany during my LL I met tons of patients that went there with their partners.
It's actually great, they can help you.
So you are 5'8 = 177cm. Average in the US is 176cm. If even so, you have height neurosis, as it doesn't correspond to a "real" physical reality ( I mean: you are not short), so, it may still have psychological "cure", together with working on your self esteem and care from your loved ones (like anorexia cases when the person is not really fat, he/she can be cured).
Try that before LL! Save health risks, save money, save time. Grow as a person, stay away from debt and headaches. Take a girl that deserves :-) your 177 cm and travel around the world! (Create experiences, create a life!)
And only if you really can't cure the dismorphia disorder (not disphoria), then, only then, go for LL...
Quote from: zaozari on October 19, 2021, 01:55:27 PMSo you are 5'8 = 177cm. Average in the US is 176cm. If even so, you have height neurosis, as it doesn't correspond to a "real" physical reality ( I mean: you are not short), so, it may still have psychological "cure", together with working on your self esteem and care from your loved ones (like anorexia cases when the person is not really fat, he/she can be cured).
Try that before LL! Save health risks, save money, save time. Grow as a person, stay away from debt and headaches. Take a girl that deserves :-) your 177 cm and travel around the world! (Create experiences, create a life!)
And only if you really can't cure the dismorphia disorder (not disphoria), then, only then, go for LL...
Its 173 cm not 177 at 177 I would probably care less.
Yes. My mistake. But "fight" back those 3 cm up to your national average! From the calculator in Tall Life, in 100 men, 32 are shorter and 67 are taller than you. Not bad, I would say.... (I know this doesn't solve your problem but in a random sample of 632 men I am the shortest....)
Women come and go, but height is forever. I propose the 2 options:
1. Forget about her and get taller bruv
2. Or, tell her about LL and hope she doesn't judge you for it. She'll either ditch you right off the bat, ditch you later, or you two will be happily ever after lol
Don't put your destiny off for some "what ifs"
Go to Russia dumbass. There are more fish in the sea, and they all want a taller, more handsome version of you. Good luck
Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on October 15, 2021, 03:59:35 AMI'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Me and my 25 yo blond ex-gf broke up back in March after a bad fight on shrooms.
She dumped me.
We are talking again and going to a dinner on Saturday.
I currently have 19,500 dollars saved up for my trip and am continuing to work hard and save.
On the one hand, if I get back together with my ex-gf I can forget this surgery for now.
On the other if we eventually break up I will regret still being a 5'8 man.
I wish that society wasn't so shallow and height didn't matter as much as it does.
I think it mostly a subconscious thing.
My ex-gf is 5'4.
So, a trade-off is in order.
Do I spend more time in Colorado, in a state where I am already sicK?
Or do I commit to leaving everything behind and coming back at least 6'0 or above and then starting a new life, with a much easier time on the dating scene.
Your opinions and commentary are welcomed.
I hope she wasn't seeing a 6' Indian guy 
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