Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on October 15, 2021, 03:59:35 AMI'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Me and my 25 yo blond ex-gf broke up back in March after a bad fight on shrooms.
She dumped me.
We are talking again and going to a dinner on Saturday.
I currently have 19,500 dollars saved up for my trip and am continuing to work hard and save.
On the one hand, if I get back together with my ex-gf I can forget this surgery for now.
On the other if we eventually break up I will regret still being a 5'8 man.
I wish that society wasn't so shallow and height didn't matter as much as it does.
I think it mostly a subconscious thing.
My ex-gf is 5'4.
So, a trade-off is in order.
Do I spend more time in Colorado, in a state where I am already sicK?
Or do I commit to leaving everything behind and coming back at least 6'0 or above and then starting a new life, with a much easier time on the dating scene.
Your opinions and commentary are welcomed.
Only do get back with your ex if your breakup wasn't due to a major problem and if you still love her. Otherwise it's not a great idea.
As for the surgery, I clearly wouldn't recommend it. At 5'8 you're clearly tall enough for you to not feel the problems that come with being short. You're 4 inches above the average woman. Your height probably has a very limited impact on your dating life and none on the rest.
So yeah, don't damage your body permanently for so little benefits.
LOL, a 5'8 wanting LL telling another 5'8 not to get LL because it's so risky.
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on October 16, 2021, 03:16:13 AMLOL, a 5'8 wanting LL telling another 5'8 not to get LL because it's so risky.
Except I'm realistic enough to realize that unless I get à really good opportunity it's not worth it so I won't get ir
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on October 16, 2021, 03:16:13 AMLOL, a 5'8 wanting LL telling another 5'8 not to get LL because it's so risky.
They are two different people. One is just wanting to come back with a giant stature or make up with his ex and the other is just worshipping tall women's styles.
Quote from: TortureHuman on October 16, 2021, 08:33:57 AMThey are two different people. One is just wanting to come back with a giant stature or make up with his ex and the other is just worshipping tall women's styles.
Lmao worshipping's a little excessive I only like it
Quote from: TortureHuman on October 16, 2021, 08:33:57 AMThey are two different people. One is just wanting to come back with a giant stature or make up with his ex and the other is just worshipping tall women's styles.
So which should get it and which shouldn't? 
Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on October 15, 2021, 03:59:35 AMI'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Me and my 25 yo blond ex-gf broke up back in March after a bad fight on shrooms.
She dumped me.
We are talking again and going to a dinner on Saturday.
I currently have 19,500 dollars saved up for my trip and am continuing to work hard and save.
On the one hand, if I get back together with my ex-gf I can forget this surgery for now.
I don't get it. Why can't you do LL while dating her? She could help you during lengthening.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on October 16, 2021, 03:46:04 PMI don't get it. Why can't you do LL while dating her? She could help you during lengthening.
Never done LL. But if someone is in the hospital during the consolidation, are visitors allowed to visit?
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on October 16, 2021, 03:16:13 AMLOL, a 5'8 wanting LL telling another 5'8 not to get LL because it's so risky.
The irony is that a 5'8 transgender passes better then a 5'10/5'11 one in most peoples opinions.
Anyways guys, update. We went to dinner and we are both still attracted to each other. As we were heading back to the parking garage I pressed her up onto the elevator wall and started passionately kissing her. Then we started making out in her SUV. She told me I need to come sleep over at her apartment soon (her parents dog and new lesbian roommate were there.)
I am torn.
I know that if I get back with this girl and don't get the surgery it will cost me. If she ever decides to leave me I will have a hard time replacing her.
On the other hand if I just tell her we need to do our own thing for a year I can be in the position of power.
She is 25 and a half and she feels like she is ready to settle down.
In other words according to red-pillers she is approaching the wall.
I am currently in security and make 50k a year.
I want to get the surgery and start a new , better life. I want to get into sales or enter the corporate ladder.
I know my odds off success both with the ladies and in managerial positions will be much better if I can gain the height.
I already have very broad shoulders and a muscular physique. With the height I can finally become psuedo-chad.
How do I play this?
I don't want to tell her about the surgery.
I want to be in the position of POWER.
The way things are now...as a 5'8 ethnic man with an average income, she has all the power.
Those are just the facts.
Part of me was like I should have just waited until after the surgery and I got on my feet to get my together.
TLDR;the l
What now?
What is worth it in the long run?
This isn't the 1950's where people stuck with each other through thick and thin.
I know that I will have a much easier time on the dating market at 6'2 instead of 5'8. Period. I know I will have much more confidence then I already do.
Quote from: 173to187USTORUSSIA on October 18, 2021, 04:49:57 PMThis isn't the 1950's where people stuck with each other through thick and thin.
I think this is the key point you made.
I've been wrestling with a similar dilemma for the past couple of days, not LL-related of course. Getting something good right now is very tempting; it can be all you think about, especially if FOMO is involved. Which is why people are more likely to have credit card debt than an investment portfolio even if they make a good salary. 
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