I will look into him thank you! I would definitely not mind staying in Greece during this procedure either 
I would just ask them to wheel me to the beach and I would be happy just sitting there while recovering lol.
Quote from: Alexa on February 23, 2020, 06:13:22 PMI will look into him thank you! I would definitely not mind staying in Greece during this procedure either I would just ask them to wheel me to the beach and I would be happy just sitting there while recovering lol.
yeah greece has an excellent weather for sure, not so hot, not so cold.
In Greece you're looking at around 35k to 40k in euro dollars.
On this forum he made a post that stated femoral lengthening with Precise-2 nails was priced around 36950 Euro although I’m sure with physical therapy and rent it’s going to end up to be a lot more! I didn’t see any info about Stryde pricing though, just the Precise 2 and LON method. Wheelchair or not I don’t even mind which nail I get so much as long as I save enough to be able to do solely the nail. Even the LON method where the external frames are on for only a short time, still seems to produce pretty big, permanent looking scars. I saw that Jolien used this method with Dr. Giotikas which she wrote about in her diary that was recommended to me and although her results seem to be good, those scars are pretty gnarly! I am grateful for her sharing, not many patients share pictures of their post op scarring.
Quote from: Zamii on February 23, 2020, 07:51:52 PMFor LON yeah (which is a decent method) but for stryde you would need at least 50k-60k euros for nail and accommodation etc
is this a verifiod information that we need at least 50 or 60 thousand euros for giotikas / stryde? because i'm pretty sure that people were telling giotikas is not only a very experienced surgeon but also relatively cheap. couple of people here i saw were considering about choosing him instead of america. or was it precice 2.0 ?
Quote from: Alexa on February 23, 2020, 09:01:09 PMOn this forum he made a post that stated femoral lengthening with Precise-2 nails was priced around 36950 Euro although I’m sure with physical therapy and rent it’s going to end up to be a lot more! I didn’t see any info about Stryde pricing though, just the Precise 2 and LON method. Wheelchair or not I don’t even mind which nail I get so much as long as I save enough to be able to do solely the nail. Even the LON method where the external frames are on for only a short time, still seems to produce pretty big, permanent looking scars. I saw that Jolien used this method with Dr. Giotikas which she wrote about in her diary that was recommended to me and although her results seem to be good, those scars are pretty gnarly!
depending on your financing, i'd choose precice 2.0 over stryde. i really dont think its that different from stryde and you should be able to walk within couple of days if not day 1 like stryde. i'd go for that, ( probably gonna go for that actually ) so not being able to walk for couple of days or 1 or 2 weeks isnt really a deal breaker considering the price difference. it does the same job anyway.
i'd stay away from externals, ( i will stay away lol ) not because of scars - but its acceptable that you dont want scars because as a woman you'd want good looking legs ) but because of pin site infection risk. and externals healing time are slower compared to internal nails. if you're from america, it would be relatively easy for you to choose at least precice, due to your money currency.
Quote from: Alexa on February 23, 2020, 09:01:09 PMOn this forum he made a post that stated femoral lengthening with Precise-2 nails was priced around 36950 Euro although I’m sure with physical therapy and rent it’s going to end up to be a lot more! I didn’t see any info about Stryde pricing though, just the Precise 2 and LON method. Wheelchair or not I don’t even mind which nail I get so much as long as I save enough to be able to do solely the nail. Even the LON method where the external frames are on for only a short time, still seems to produce pretty big, permanent looking scars. I saw that Jolien used this method with Dr. Giotikas which she wrote about in her diary that was recommended to me and although her results seem to be good, those scars are pretty gnarly! I am grateful for her sharing, not many patients share pictures of their post op scarring.
there is still a few way to hide scars as much as you can like small tattoos or laser
and jolien scars looks almost perfect in comparison with other pictures of externals patients i've seen. It seems that doc really tries to make it better on women patients
Quote from: Alexa on February 23, 2020, 09:01:09 PMOn this forum he made a post that stated femoral lengthening with Precise-2 nails was priced around 36950 Euro although I’m sure with physical therapy and rent it’s going to end up to be a lot more! I didn’t see any info about Stryde pricing though, just the Precise 2 and LON method. Wheelchair or not I don’t even mind which nail I get so much as long as I save enough to be able to do solely the nail. Even the LON method where the external frames are on for only a short time, still seems to produce pretty big, permanent looking scars. I saw that Jolien used this method with Dr. Giotikas which she wrote about in her diary that was recommended to me and although her results seem to be good, those scars are pretty gnarly! I am grateful for her sharing, not many patients share pictures of their post op scarring.
For LoN he had his post at 32k UsD. His externals i believe uses the small tsf frames which let you walk and weight bear right away and cost 26k usd. But you have to stay in the externals until the bone gets solid.
Neither of those include accommodations. So LoN would probably cost you 40k total in Greece.
Also don’t listen to greater talking about if you go to a cheaper doctor there are risks. Some countries have a weak exchange against the dollar/euro. Whats important is who trained that doctor and how much experience s/he has.
Either way as long as you’re lengthening within the “safe limit” where the risks run small, and use a competent respected doctor, you’ll be okay.
There are a lot of people who don’t lose ANY thing. The ones that lost lengthened beyond medical suggestions for them, or didn’t bang out the exercises in their lengthen part or didnt go to a good doc. You can recover definitely 99%.
We can never “theoretically” be 100% once we do a surgery. I have fractured my wrist and got it fixed, surgery for scar removal, stitches from accidents.. technically I’m not100% becuase there was trama done to the body and surgery to repair it. But I am “100%” . Understand what I mean?
This surgery is the same way. Modify yourself ina. Safe way (imho NOT the longest cm the nail allows a person to go) , be determined and focus in your exercise and stretching , and find a good doctor that necessarily isnt the most expensive. And you’ll be fine.
Good luck on your journey !
Thanks for all the advice 
I did not know about those issues associated with external’s. That definitely gives me all the more reason to choose Precice!
And I’ve definitely got to research all of the doctors, I would not be opposed to going anywhere as long as the doctor was qualified!
I feel like there's some confusion here so I want to clarify.
Quote from: limewalk on February 22, 2020, 05:07:05 AMNo doctor will let you walk on the 8.5mm precice nail. Do you know of someone on 8.5mm precice nail walking on crutches at Paley's?
Walker is not the same as crutches. Some of us were pretty much exclusively using the walker with Precice 2 from the get-go, but you couldn't really "walk" -- you had to "hop", basically either both feet on the ground, or neither. You could not put your weight exclusively on one leg, like you can with Stryde.
Quote from: Great321 on February 22, 2020, 09:15:46 AMI mean even if you are allowed to use a walker before, can you realistically say what you were able to do with it? How fast was your speed? Did you not need help when going outside the house? Because with externals I was allowed to use the walker the next day after surgery but I was quite slow and any time I left the house, I used the wheelchair with the help of others because it would have taken too long if I used the walker outside. How did you buy groceries for example?
I was able to go out, and I would occasionally Uber to restaurants and go to stores for small purchases and things like that. The two big problems with using the Walker were that (a) you can't go up and down stairs, and (b) you can't carry anything in your hands. So for transporting items, you either had to rely on your pockets or buy a carrying pouch for the walker.
I had somebody else help with groceries and laundry.
Quote from: Fox on February 23, 2020, 09:09:10 PMdepending on your financing, i'd choose precice 2.0 over stryde. i really dont think its that different from stryde and you should be able to walk within couple of days if not day 1 like stryde. i'd go for that, ( probably gonna go for that actually ) so not being able to walk for couple of days or 1 or 2 weeks isnt really a deal breaker considering the price difference. it does the same job anyway.
What? With Precice, you most likely cannot walk until the bones consolidate. With Stryde, you can walk far sooner.
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