Anyone who still entertains this idea of "leg-lengthening" using an almost century old contraption despite knowing all of this certainly doesn't have any sympathy from me.
Though for those that went thru the surgery, they are the plenty that are living their lives now neurosis free while we here complaining and waiting for the next voodoo pill in 2035 and tryna get sum gay sëx or hetero sëx.
I think vast majority of people are happy with their choice to go thru this barbaric surgery, assuming they survive through it haha. Would I take early onset arthritis in trade of removing my height neurosis for my adult life? Probably lol. I may regret it later on, probably, but the chances of having to use a state of the art knee replacement definitely outweighs having a life consuming height complex for my entire young adult life.
I'll take it hecrapeg worth
0 deaths by CLL in usa for the entirety of it's history btw
Quote from: ghkid2019 on September 21, 2020, 03:19:59 AMThough for those that went thru the surgery, they are the plenty that are living their lives now neurosis free while we here complaining and waiting for the next voodoo pill in 2035 and tryna get sum gay sëx or hetero sëx.
I think vast majority of people are happy with their choice to go thru this barbaric surgery, assuming they survive through it haha. Would I take early onset arthritis in trade of removing my height neurosis for my adult life? Probably lol. I may regret it later on, probably, but the chances of having to use a state of the art knee replacement definitely outweighs having a life consuming height complex for my entire young adult life.
I'll take it hecrapeg worth
0 deaths by CLL in usa for the entirety of it's history btw
Your utilitarian argument doesn't work since the vast majority of users here aren't from USA which is evident from the posts. Btw how do you have 600 posts while being here for only 5 months? You seem to be the only active poster here in this forum, so what's holding you back from going through CLL if you don't mind me asking? Or are you already undergoing CLL since you have a lot of time in your hands it seems.
I'm guessing he has no money because he's still in high school.
Haha ghkid clearly has me beat in terms of being active on this forum.
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 19, 2020, 11:59:54 PMI don't know if it's 'a slight' risk man. Because it seems to me that things often go wrong more than not.
Apart from the 3 people I mentioned above (2 of which are veterans), there is you. But if I am not mistaken your surgery was more recent than Sweden and Medium of Drink Water.
Then there is Android. Did the surgery 2 years ago, suffered nerve damage, hasn't been back until now: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=8993.186
This is a guy who did a lot of research prior to the surgery, I'm sure he was extra careful all the time and still didn't go that smooth.
And a good doctor is not a guarantee. Guichet was once considered one of the best LL doctors.
I don't even read that many diaries, perhaps there are more cases like these.
I did LL on 2011, much before than all these.
With external tibias is it almost impossible to go too wrong if the doctor is experienced enough and you don't lengthen fast.
With internals, things are a little more riskier due to fat embolism as it is a much more invasive surgery, still if it is done right and don't lengthen much and fast, things will go well.
I truly don't believe that if you go to a good doctor (with whom you must speak a lot and see other patients of him after rehabilitation) the risks are significant, at least for permanent except some degree of athletic loss which is for sure.
Most LLers with good doctors are doing really good.
Even weirdos like Apotheosis with 3 surgeries (even in arms) at a not young age is doing very well and has a great body.
So LL has risks but for sure most patients are doing well. And the risks are truly worth it because it is the most lifechanging cosmetic surgery a short man can do. Benefits from LL are so big that even veterans like me, who had some problems due to doctors's faults (firtunately almost fixed), would have done another one if they had plenty of money.
That says a lit I believe .
Quote from: Body Builder on September 21, 2020, 02:30:10 PMI did LL on 2011, much before than all these.
With external tibias is it almost impossible to go too wrong if the doctor is experienced enough and you don't lengthen fast.
With internals, things are a little more riskier due to fat embolism as it is a much more invasive surgery, still if it is done right and don't lengthen much and fast, things will go well.
I truly don't believe that if you go to a good doctor (with whom you must speak a lot and see other patients of him after rehabilitation) the risks are significant, at least for permanent except some degree of athletic loss which is for sure.
Most LLers with good doctors are doing really good.
Even weirdos like Apotheosis with 3 surgeries (even in arms) at a not young age is doing very well and has a great body.
So LL has risks but for sure most patients are doing well. And the risks are truly worth it because it is the most lifechanging cosmetic surgery a short man can do. Benefits from LL are so big that even veterans like me, who had some problems due to doctors's faults (firtunately almost fixed), would have done another one if they had plenty of money.
That says a lit I believe .
Yeah. If you want to do LL, the safest thing to do I think is tibia lengthening with TSF for 5cm or so.
Maybe this will get safer in a few years or the soft tissues problems will be fixed to the point where we don't need to give up athleticism.
Quote from: O_99 on September 20, 2020, 10:43:02 AM+1
Lol!
If you are 5'5 or so and below, LLS is probably the way to go (that's why I shared the video with Brendan Snob making fun of 5'3 people who do the surgery). Once you go higher in height, the risks/drawbacks - rewards balance starts to shift. I'm a Mountain Biker, if I do the surgery I'll be a 178cm grandpa riding a bike. When I reach 45 how I'll do that? Will do downhill with the wheelchair?
When/If I reach 70 (regardless of sports; just walking)? Don't want to even think about it.
Whereas you can do bodybuilding training only for your upper body and don't work out your weak, worn-down chicken legs.
https://me.me/i/gym-memes-prime-example-of-why-you-dont-skip-leg-12244986
https://me.me/i/looks-like-someone-has-been-skipping-leg-day-rofldump-lol-2977154
Maybe you got lucky, or just don't want to admit that you are not sure if it was a wise decision, and why you're still here if you are happy anyway?
You're not short anymore.
2Lol!
Guichet was considered a good/competent doctor until a few years ago and look what happened
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3560.0
And that Indian guy who trusted him
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64405.0
Go tell to the Indian guy's parents that above.
Bonus
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=8978.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3922.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3655.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5485.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64558.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9733.0
And many more cases, crippled, grandpa walking, constant pain, additional $urgerie$, etc that we just haven't heard of and never will.
Even when people get 'milder' bad outcomes they are ashamed and don't want to admit it was a sh*t decision. After 20 years they certainly will, but not here.
I am here mainly to read some experiences with stryde as maybe one time I'll do a second LL if I have money.
And to give some advice to the other people whonwant to do LL or doing it right now. Also to encourage the latter.
I am very happy with my LL and satisfacted with my height although I would have need another 2 inches to see myself completely as I want.
As for Guichet, that man is a crook. He must be punished for what he did to many LLers. He must be the most expensive butcher for LL im the world.
Any LLer should avoid him and his barbaric tactics and nail at all costs.
Thats why I always say how important is a good doctor to have a great result.
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 21, 2020, 02:44:30 PMYeah. If you want to do LL, the safest thing to do I think is tibia lengthening with TSF for 5cm or so.
Maybe this will get safer in a few years or the soft tissues problems will be fixed to the point where we don't need to give up athleticism.
With only 5cm and tsf on tibias it is almost impossible to have soft tissue issues.
Athletic abilities will be a little reduced due to changes in feet ratio but nothing important.
The only problems is that 5cm are (or were) not enough for most of them but if you are ok with that lengthening, things are very safe, I can guarantee that.
I'm to bring back these tragedies and it doesn't mean I'm still immersed in them.
1.When I was 12 y.o,I was on my way to hand in my homework to my teachers waiting in the queue across the teacher's office then.What was next was my classmates' laughing at my short height and then asking how much was height.I went into silence and felt upset.
2.When I was 13 y.o,I was on the stairs up to the lecture platform to hand in my homework.While I was waiting for the queue moving standing one of the stair,one of my classmates laughed at me because I was still shorter than him when setting foot on the stair and that stair was thick.That year I was again laughed by 14-15 y.o girls when participating in the flag-raising ceremony because I was shorter than them by one head.
3.When I was 19 y.o,I was on my way to morning individual study lesson and heard one girl said 'Men under 180cm are disable!'.
Lately I was refused by my gf's mother because I was too f**king short to inherit good genes,which bothered me most that I wanna do LL! 
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