Height or Wealth?

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Quote from: ub40 on October 09, 2016, 01:24:30 PMHi there, I would take the million dollars of course. But the thing is you can't guarantee that you can make 20%. If you could then you could trade with borrowed money, and still do your surgery.

No I definitely can't guarantee a 20% return per annum otherwise I'd be in canary warf managing my own hedge fund! haha
I've just struck lucky this year capitalizing on oil tanking and the post brexit rally on banking stocks, after two more years of solid performance I'll start gearing my account; I just want to be sure I can consistently win before gambling someone else's money that will have to be paid back whether I win or lose.

Quote from: ub40 on October 09, 2016, 01:24:30 PMAlso as someone who trades, when you're trading 10k, you're going to act differently than when you're trading 100k, you will take your profits and losses much sooner, potentially ruining your system.

haha your right I can't even get my head round having holdings worth ~£200,000 each; technically the strategy shouldn't change but I can imagine if I lost 10% on a £200,000 holding I'd lose my s***t and panic sell whereas I can accept that loss on a small account.
I'm just going to have to forget about those extra zero's...easier said than done though!

Quote from: ub40 on October 09, 2016, 01:24:30 PMAnyways, feel free to pm. I love talking stocks and am interested in your method.

Will do cheers; I use technical analysis to swing trade (I'm a big Thomas Bulkowski fan if you've heard of him).

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Quote from: Penguinn on October 09, 2016, 01:56:13 PM£25,000 is good enough to have externals in India or China and gain 6cms. You will also lose a lot of time though.

Hi Penguinn really enjoyed reading your diary!
I would feel much safer having the surgery carried out in my home country by Dr. Guichet also having my aunt who is a nurse funnily enough lives in London so I can stay with her whilst undergoing my post op physio and lengthening also having my father able to care for me in the lengthening stage is a huge benefit I want to use to my advantage.

My goal is 80mm (~3") and I want to be back at work in 8-10 weeks, if that entails using crutches at work so be it.

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Quote from: Random Hero on October 09, 2016, 08:15:02 PMHi Penguinn really enjoyed reading your diary!
I would feel much safer having the surgery carried out in my home country by Dr. Guichet also having my aunt who is a nurse funnily enough lives in London so I can stay with her whilst undergoing my post op physio and lengthening also having my father able to care for me in the lengthening stage is a huge benefit I want to use to my advantage.

My goal is 80mm (~3") and I want to be back at work in 8-10 weeks, if that entails using crutches at work so be it.

80 mm is 3.25" inches. you need more time then. 7 cm you can gain it in two months with Guichet, then you can go back immediately but its preferable to stay an extra week there so lets say 65 days for 7 cm. good luck

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Quote from: Alu on October 09, 2016, 03:53:44 PMHave you really actually tried to see a shrink? I'm asking because a lot of what you're saying seems to boil down to just basic narcissism. Sorry to say, but even if you get LL and get to 5'11 your mindset will still hold you back. There's always someone who's better than you: deal with it (the inverse can be said too..)

I've just hired one, only on my fourth session now but I have explained the procedure and my feelings to which she agreed that surgery could be a very real solution however when talking to a close friend about my shrink's acceptance of the idea he said she was irresponsible.

I admit have self image problems due to a previous relationship ending however I am not seeking gratification from others I'm looking for acceptance with myself.
I'm going to sound like a serial plastic surgery fiend now but I've already had a septoplasty/rhinoplasty and I can now look in the mirror and feel happy about my face when I previously could not look at myself...I imagine the same will be true about my height it's the only thing I'd change about myself.

I understand there is always a bigger fish but it's not about being the best, 5"11 would put me in the 75th percentile as opposed to my current height of 5"8 which is the 25th percentile which I see as a huge difference and I couldn't ask for anymore than that. 

Quote from: Alu on October 09, 2016, 03:53:44 PMI feel like you're oversimplified a lot about life. Unless you might live in the Netherlands or a secret  town in which everyone is 6+, the amount of crap you think you're getting from you height should all be in your head. I don't know your life story (and frankly don't care), so I'm not going to over speculate to much, but the comment "no matter how successful I become my height will always be the thing people remember about me"
screams disillusion.

No secret giant town haha I live in the UK; I'm not openly discriminated against but I will be overlooked for someone with similar looks etc who is taller; this surgery will statistically mean that this would only occur 25% of the time as opposed to 75% of the time going off the percentile's I mentioned earlier.

Quote from: Alu on October 09, 2016, 03:53:44 PMFor your last paragraph: go out there already. Don't waste away your time hold up in some hole thinking you'll never find love or compassion because of height. Try that before you go for the last resort of LL.

I'm trying; I know I'll get there eventually and hopefully my shrink can help speed up the process a little
Means a lot that you would take your time to express your opinion and give your advise to a complete stranger so thank you!

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Quote from: Random Hero on October 09, 2016, 08:59:45 PMI'm going to sound like a serial plastic surgery fiend now but I've already had a septoplasty/rhinoplasty

For this you should be already disqualified from any LL related surgery.

Quote from: Random Hero on October 09, 2016, 08:59:45 PMI've just hired one, only on my fourth session now but I have explained the procedure and my feelings to which she agreed that surgery could be a very real solution however when talking to a close friend about my shrink's acceptance of the idea he said she was irresponsible.

Did you explained to her eventual complications? Risks of never walking again?
Shrink isn't supposed to give you "acceptance", she is supposed to give you some kind of perspective.

LL always is the last resort, don't forget that.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on October 09, 2016, 09:25:16 PMFor this you should be already disqualified from any LL related surgery.

LL always is the last resort, don't forget that.

Ehh sure it can say a lot about his mentality, but having rhinoplasty isn't the absolute worst thing out there. I do agree with your last statement though....

With that in mind, OP I do think you're not well-informed about how long and arduous this procedure can be... It's going to take a full year before you go back to functioning like a normal person; if no complications arise..

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on October 09, 2016, 09:25:16 PMFor this you should be already disqualified from any LL related surgery.

haha that's quite an assumption to jump to why would you think it disqualifies me from lengthening surgery?
My nose was damaged in a sparring match offsetting it to the right and deviating my septum to the point where I was unable to breathe so I thought why not get a rhinoplasty at the same time as it's not anymore inconvenient.

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on October 09, 2016, 09:25:16 PMDid you explained to her eventual complications? Risks of never walking again?
Shrink isn't supposed to give you "acceptance", she is supposed to give you some kind of perspective.

LL always is the last resort, don't forget that.

She previously worked as a surgeon's first assistant and has come across the surgery for non cosmetic purposes.

I have found no cases of paralysis as a result of leg lengthening and the following is an extract from Dr. Guichet's website:
"While it is important to be aware of what could go wrong. It is important to note that no instances of deep infection (osteitis, osteomyelitis), paralysis or lasting stiffness have occurred as a result of Dr. Guichet’s femoral lengthening practice to date."

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You said everything started after the end of a relationship.

 I can relate to the feeling of unworthingness or whatever since I like every other single man or women had a rough breakup at some point in our past... A harsh breakup can really mess up your self worth and self image.... Be sure that you are not projecting your sorrow for the lost relationship into invented insecurities... One thing is to want to become taller... Another is to suffer because you arent already tall

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Quote from: Random Hero on October 09, 2016, 10:25:06 PMI have found no cases of paralysis as a result of leg lengthening and the following is an extract from Dr. Guichet's website:
"While it is important to be aware of what could go wrong. It is important to note that no instances of deep infection (osteitis, osteomyelitis), paralysis or lasting stiffness have occurred as a result of Dr. Guichet’s femoral lengthening practice to date."

And Betz says his patients can get 22cm of lengthening. Eh.

Quote from: Random Hero on October 09, 2016, 10:25:06 PMhaha that's quite an assumption to jump to why would you think it disqualifies me from lengthening surgery?
My nose was damaged in a sparring match offsetting it to the right and deviating my septum to the point where I was unable to breathe so I thought why not get a rhinoplasty at the same time as it's not anymore inconvenient.

Cool. It's more about going into addiction from plastic surgeries especially that LL isn't an easy walk in the park.
You were happy with your nose job, why you can't be happy now?

Imho you sound like someone who thinks LL will solve his self-esteem issues which is obviously false(it can help, but it won't do it just by itself). Remember that Guichet doesn't accept people who think LL will solve their life problems.

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Why dont you get a loan of 25 000 € from the bank, do LL and then pay it off slowly.
This way you will be millionaire not when you are 40 but maybe 45 because you have to pay off the loan. But then you are tall and rich!

My main point: You dont have to choose between height and money. That is just a limiting belief in your head.