I trust a 1,80-85 man who claim to feel short.
But, if this is a trouble for you, being absolutely average or even over, how many other troubles do you have in your life if a so decent height takes you to do a so hard, expensive and mind draining procedure? Is this a true solution for something?
Probably that is just the tip of the iceberg
Quote from: Body Builder on December 08, 2020, 10:23:52 PMThe reason to do something so risky and with permanent disabilities (from minor to major) is to have a decent height which is something objective (up to a big point).
Thats what differentiates a sane person who does LL to a madman. Even an 1.90cm man could be not satisfied with his height, that doesn't mean that we should advice him to go to a psychiatrist rather than an LL surgeon.
So of course LL is related to the initial height of each one as all cosmetic surgeries has to do with the initial appearance of someone and thats the border between becoming better or a joke.
It's not your body, so don't tell other people what they have to do with it. Being 6' tall is a goal for a lot of people, if you don't like it, don't do it. And do not talk about "psychiatrists", because you cannot know a person just for a simple opinion about LL. There are a lot of people that doesn't feel healthy just for their short (<6') height. Maybe less than 6' is "decent" for you, but not for other people, me too. Most of people is happier after the procedure.
Quote from: Polvorón on December 09, 2020, 02:07:14 AMIt's not your body, so don't tell other people what they have to do with it. Being 6' tall is a goal for a lot of people, if you don't like it, don't do it. And do not talk about "psychiatrists", because you cannot know a person just for a simple opinion about LL. There are a lot of people that doesn't feel healthy just for their short (<6') height. Maybe less than 6' is "decent" for you, but not for other people, me too. Most of people is happier after the procedure.
What BB means is that his height is dead on average and to consider two LLs will come with a lot of downsides. Not only will it cost a lot more, but it will also impact his athleticism to a far greater extent than one surgery would.
It's not advisable. Theoretically you can lengthen up to 20cm, but no surgeon would recommend such thing. In the end, it's their body, but this is a ridiculous goal to aim for especially when you're not in the lower end of height (a dwarf or someone who's in the 150s range).
Quote from: SartBimpson on December 09, 2020, 11:54:06 AMWhat BB means is that his height is dead on average and to consider two LLs will come with a lot of downsides. Not only will it cost a lot more, but it will also impact his athleticism to a far greater extent than one surgery would.
It's not advisable. Theoretically you can lengthen up to 20cm, but no surgeon would recommend such thing. In the end, it's their body, but this is a ridiculous goal to aim for especially when you're not in the lower end of height (a dwarf or someone who's in the 150s range).
The impact for some people is being less than 6'. In my case I would need two surgeries because I don't like to be under 6' tall. I don't care about the average height, I care about 6' not about athleticism or being the next Mr Olympia. There are a lot of 6' people, I want to be like them, not being 6' is my main problem, athleticism is secondary.
I don't know what thinks shortbutitsok, but if he prefers to be taller, you should accept it and not tell him what to do with his life. There are also a lot of people who did 8 cm without great problems at the end.
Quote from: Polvorón on December 10, 2020, 12:31:04 AMThe impact for some people is being less than 6'. In my case I would need two surgeries because I don't like to be under 6' tall. I don't care about the average height, I care about 6' not about athleticism or being the next Mr Olympia. There are a lot of 6' people, I want to be like them, not being 6' is my main problem, athleticism is secondary.
I don't know what thinks shortbutitsok, but if he prefers to be taller, you should accept it and not tell him what to do with his life. There are also a lot of people who did 8 cm without great problems at the end.
I'm not telling him what to do with his life, I'm giving him advice. If you can't differentiate between both then frankly you need to go to the nearest IQ testing center and see if they can give you a diagnosis so the rest of your life doesn't go down the drain with processing abilities like these.
If you're so obsessed with being 6 foot but a cripple then be my guest. I'll be more than happy to mourn your sadness on the forum when this happens and you're full of regrets over how ridiculous your decisions were.
Quote from: SartBimpson on December 10, 2020, 08:21:57 AMI'm not telling him what to do with his life, I'm giving him advice. If you can't differentiate between both then frankly you need to go to the nearest IQ testing center and see if they can give you a diagnosis so the rest of your life doesn't go down the drain with processing abilities like these.
If you're so obsessed with being 6 foot but a cripple then be my guest. I'll be more than happy to mourn your sadness on the forum when this happens and you're full of regrets over how ridiculous your decisions were.
You don't get crippled just for doing two surgeries instead of just one. You have to wait between the procedures or lengthen fewer cms, but you don't get crippled. And advice must be useful, not a "you have a 0.0001% chance of becoming crippled, so never do it", that is not useful, telling how to do it to minimize the risk is useful.
Quote from: Polvorón on December 10, 2020, 11:04:19 PMYou don't get crippled just for doing two surgeries instead of just one. You have to wait between the procedures or lengthen fewer cms, but you don't get crippled. And advice must be useful, not a "you have a 0.0001% chance of becoming crippled, so never do it", that is not useful, telling how to do it to minimize the risk is useful.
You'll be greatly fked. You are stretching nerves buddy, this is basic biology, you shouldn't lengthen too much. We don't have documented evidence of results 30 years down the line, you're giving this kid false hope. Even people who have lengthened 3 inches are having issues, maybe it's time you learn more about this surgery and stop pushing false information.
Quote from: SartBimpson on December 21, 2020, 08:23:38 AMYou'll be greatly fked. You are stretching nerves buddy, this is basic biology, you shouldn't lengthen too much. We don't have documented evidence of results 30 years down the line, you're giving this kid false hope. Even people who have lengthened 3 inches are having issues, maybe it's time you learn more about this surgery and stop pushing false information.
Nerves grow when you stretch them (if you don't go too fast, that is the reason because it's better to avoid tibia & femur at the same time).
About the results 30 years after, this procedure has been done with a lot of people since decades. And there are scientific data about the effectiveness of the procedure:
https://online.boneandjoint.org.uk/doi/full/10.1302/2046-3758.97.BJR-2019-0379.R1
It's not false hope, you can lengthen two segments, there are people doing it, but it's better to wait for the second lengthening to let all soft tissues accommodate to the new length.
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