I'm 1 month from 19 and I'm 166 day and 165 night, lets just say I'm 5'5. I intend to do 6-6,5cm femurs in the future and I'm from the country of Europe where people are the shortest (Portugal). On the one hand I'm already 8 cm taller than my father but on the other hand 2cm shorter than my mother and grandmother.
Ever since I can remember I have allways been the 2nd shortest in class
When I was 12 years I even got my bone age measured and it was 2 years below my normal age. Due to that and looking younger the doctor, which had asked for this exam, said it was ok and that I didn't needed the hormone. Besides all this my grandmother and mother allways said I was going to be definitely taller than them and at least 5'7. I have allways believed that I was going to be 5'7 and growth until I was 20 years old. I in fact went from from 4'11 when 14y to 5'4 with 17 years old.
In Januray 2014 it was when it all begun... I felt I wasn't getting any taller. Due my father I was able to use a x-ray everytime I want. That beeing the case
I asked if he could help me out... After searching online and comparing the x-ray of my hand to his I found out that my bone age caught my chronological age and that I wasn't goint to get much taller. This was heartbreaking but I couldn't do nothing, so I went from "meh ok I'm short but I am still growing" to "I'm short, I don't like it and I can't change it, so better accept it"
Three months later I found leg lenghtening... This only made things worst! Reading your posts day and night lead me to think that the only think worst than beeing short, was to be short and have cancer. One year passed by and I continue to come here even knowing that in the short term this isn't healthy. I do believe that after I get my leg lenghtening done (4-5years time) it will be perfect. But unfortunately since the day I registered here to the day I get my leg lenghtening done I will never be able to forget about leg lenghtening.
I got myself so obsessed with height, tibia/femur ratio and sitting height ratio that I can't even go out without comparing myself with other people. I even started walking in a strange way but fortunately I discovered timberland boots, I went from a guy that never used boots to a guy that use them all the time. Even when I'm alone at home i need to use them cause I just can't stand beeing shorter than the extra height that they provide when compared to regular shoes (1 inch).
I used to be very confident and even knowing I was short I had no problem in getting girls
. Unfortunately, ever since I found out about Leg Lengthening I sometimes even think as myself as someone not worth dating just because of my height. I know this is a strange though to have specially when my father is 4 inches shorter than my mother.
Nowadays, I know that I must avoid thinking about Leg Lenghtening in orther to decrease this negative psychological feelings that increased in January 2014 and got even worst thanks to this forum. It's a shame that I developed this mentality, but now it is when the irony arrives, what helped increase the problem will make it go away forever.
Thank you all, feel free to share yours 
I said forever because:
The average men is 5'85 and I never wanted to be tall I just don't want to be short. In my opinion the concept of short is relative to the country you leave in. I would say +2.5 inch below average is short; 2.5-1.5 below is average short; above that is average or tall.
Proportions do matter even know no one pays attention to it:
-> Doing both tibia and femur would lead to a bad sitting height/height ratio; +time; +expensive
-> I've already decided that going over 6-6,5cm per segment wont be worth it due to tibia/femur ratio, +recovery time and +chances of short term and long term complications. I really intend not to ruin my biomechanics.
I think senior year of high school is when I seriously started getting upset about it. I had the second highest bench press on the football team but my coach wouldn't put me in a single play for the whole season because he thought I wasn't tall enough. Then the classmates in my judo and sambo classes laughed at me for a while after the time my coach used me as a demonstration for what to do when someone's legs are too short to put them in a proper leg lock, then later that year having my prom date cancel on me the day before it because she decided she'd look ridiculous if she were taller than me in heels.
Going to a private college in the upper midwest didn't help either.
I was unhappy with my height since I was a child. I have 3 cousins who are around my age, and I have always been the smallest one. The fact that even the women in my family (besides my mother, who is my height) are taller than me made it even worse. Even today they still call me 'the little one' even though I am almost 180. It gets really bad when we take pictures togehter and I always get told to stay in front because no one would see me otherwise.
None of my friends ever called me short, the fact that all of them are 185+ doesn't help much though. I was the shortest out of 6 guys in my class and the male average was 186 so I felt kinda small.
My neurosis got really bad when I found out that my growth plates are already closed when I was 17. In my case this forum has helped me with my problems, just seeing that there are other people who have issues with their height calmed me down, in a way that I am not alone with this problem.
My case is a bit complicated, and there are multiple factors involved. My background is that I was projected to be relatively tall (around 6' or 6' 1") by the doctors. When I was a kid, I had some vitamin deficiencies which MAY have hampered my growth. I didn't think about it at the time, and wish I had, because I might have exercised more, slept more than the 6.5 hrs a night I averaged, and ate healthier. I stopped growing at a very young age, despite my growth plates still being open (this regret about choices I made when I was a kid is small part of my height neurosis, but wouldn't play a part until years later).
The catalyst for my obsession with height was women... about two years ago, I was at a party, when I noticed that many women were eyeing this one guy. They were discussing how "hot" he is, especially because he is "so tall". I looked around at people at the party, and felt very short, as the average height was probably 183CM. I felt inadequate and felt like I was sinking in on myself. I said to myself that since I was not a big and tall guy, my chances of attracting women was much less than I originally thought....I felt tiny, worthless, and unattractive.
A few "incidents" happened in the subsequent months: I overheard women talk about how height is the most important trait in a man, how a guy has to be taller than them, and preferably taller in heels, and how they would probably not consider dating short guys....
Admittedly, I've probably had the misfortune of meeting some of the most superficial female creatures on the planet, but the stings they left are still there.
My thoughts and opinions about height have evolved over those two years, but women were the main catalyst for my height neurosis, and the regrets from my past choices added fuel to the fire.
i used to live in paris where people are tall
Now i moved to the north of france to pursue my studies, but even there i still feel short, the average height is like 185 cm
Quote from: endomorphisme on April 05, 2015, 12:41:36 PMi used to live in paris where people are tall
Now i moved to the north of france to pursue my studies, but even there i still feel short, the average height is like 185 cm
Really? Whenever I visited France I got the impression that people are smaller than in germany for instance. There are also statistics proofing that french people are somewhere between italy and germany in terms of height.
www.averageheight.co
I just quickly googeld it, it's the first thing that appears.
Quote from: Alittletooshort on April 05, 2015, 01:24:51 PMReally? Whenever I visited France I got the impression that people are smaller than in germany for instance. There are also statistics proofing that french people are somewhere between italy and germany in terms of height.
www.averageheight.co
I just quickly googeld it, it's the first thing that appears.
I don't trust statistics anymore, most guys i study with are my height or taller, maybe white young men are much taller than the national average
KiloKAHN - man bro, I am really sorry to hear your story. It kinda broke my heart lol. I know another short guy who went through something very similar. He's now 47, and thanks to me, looking into LL.
My height neurosis started when I was 15. I just sorted realized that I was a lot shorter than most guys my age. I started to think "my good looks are really gonna go to waste, height is more important than anything for dating." My dad took me to an endocrinologist when I was that age, and they confirmed my worst fear - I wasn't going to grow much more. This sent me into a huge depression that lasted most of my high school years. In college, I tried to force myself to "get over" it because, well, there was nothing I could do about it (or so I thought). I always knew that my height was affecting my confidence, and that I was losing so many dating opportunities because of it. I tried to compensate in other areas, but could never shake this feeling of inadequacy. I tried to be outgoing, work out a lot, stay and dress thin, occasionally (but not often) wear lifts, etc.
I started to do better with girls as I learned to compensate more and at least fake confidence really well. So that was sorta a "band aid" on the situation. I was using success with women to help me get over it, thinking "well, I'm still occasionally scoring hot girls, so maybe my looks can help compensate for being super short." Then I ended up in a relationship with a really beautiful girl. Things were great for quite a while...until they weren't. I knew it wasn't right ,and I knew she was gonna break my heart. A year before she left me, I re-joined some online sites behind her back to put my feelers out there. Well, once I saw the height requirements, I just decided I'd try to make it work with this girl. That blew up in my face about a year later. My height neurosis then came back big time...that was when I started looking into LL, and it took me about a year and a half to be ready for it.
Thank God I did it 
Quote from: endomorphisme on April 05, 2015, 01:42:20 PMI don't trust statistics anymore, most guys i study with are my height or taller, maybe white young men are much taller than the national average
I know what you mean, you are probably right that statistics aren't always true. It won't be that wrong though, every statistic claims that french people are smaller. You should definintely be clearly above average in france.
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