How many of you thought about killing yourself at some point?

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Quote from: Coeus on May 03, 2021, 04:52:15 AMI counted them wrong.

I tried jumping for 4 times and hanging for 2 times all at just 15 simply cuz of height.I'm also suffering from slight muscae volitantes.

Even in my gf's companion I've been also considering suicide for nearly 1 yr(only half year romance with my gf at present).

I'm also planning on gold nanoparticle muscae volitantes treatments coming in 5 yrs to kill all of the floaters in my eyeballs,which are also annoying me at the same time with my height dysphoria.

But I think solvable problems cannot be called problems like muscae volitantes.But height will be permanent pain that can not be killed by just medicine and fking shrinks for men.

wow. u talk to therapist yet or not yet?

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Yea quite a lot in my past but LL gives me hope and a reason to continue on.

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Quote from: Serilium on May 03, 2021, 05:04:05 AMwow. u talk to therapist yet or not yet?
No and floater treatments doesn't need any therapist.But u are talking about LL then many LL surgeons do surgery for you and at the same time they will offer you therapists,which means you don't need worry anything about therapies.

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Quote from: RealLostSoul on May 03, 2021, 06:10:12 AMYea quite a lot in my past but LL gives me hope and a reason to continue on.
It's the same with me.If there weren't LL I dunno how to continue my life.

In this goddamned modern society short men are being discriminated in all aspects every single moment.

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Future Skycraper At least you're 168. I'm 10cm shorter than you. Even after 2 surgeries, I'll be only at your height. So terrible. The journey to get there is so long and after all the sacrifice I will still be below the average. Knowing that sucks like hell.
I've posted days ago about should I go +14 or +11. After days, I've experienced the suicidal thought too much that I'm now determined to go with the max regardless. With good clothing, I'll be fine with the proportion. Chaizo. https://imgur.com/a/14qPXUG

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Quote from: loia5tqd001 on May 03, 2021, 07:35:53 AMFuture Skycraper At least you're 168. I'm 10cm shorter than you. Even after 2 surgeries, I'll be only at your height. So terrible. The journey to get there is so long and after all the sacrifice I will still be below the average. Knowing that sucks like hell.
I've posted days ago about should I go +14 or +11. After days, I've experienced the suicidal thought too much that I'm now determined to go with the max regardless. With good clothing, I'll be fine with the proportion. Chaizo. https://imgur.com/a/14qPXUG
The maximum lengthening amount for height like yours is only 11cm,perhaps.You shoulda learned the shorter your bone lengths are,the fewer you can lengthen but there is no 100%.

Overlengthening will transition you into disable.

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Quote from: Coeus on May 03, 2021, 08:19:52 AMThe maximum lengthening amount for height like yours is only 11cm.
That's why I need 2 surgeries with enough time apart.
Do 1 surgery, wait for the new bone to become my own bone. Do another one.
I've come to know someone went from 163 to 176 with TIBIA ONLY. 13cm in Tibia only is crazy and people say that he couldn't walk but no, he can lift 100+kg weights with his new legs. And the secret here is he was doing 2 surgeries with 9 years apart. The bone from the old surgery was already his own bone.
https://tuoitre.vn/di-tim-chieu-cao-mo-uoc-ky-2-hai-lan-keo-chan-cao-them-13cm-20201010110356253.htm

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Quote from: loia5tqd001 on May 03, 2021, 09:25:07 AMThat's why I need 2 surgeries with enough time apart.
Do 1 surgery, wait for the new bone to become my own bone. Do another one.
I've come to know someone went from 163 to 176 with TIBIA ONLY. 13cm in Tibia only is crazy and people say that he couldn't walk but no, he can lift 100+kg weights with his new legs. And the secret here is he was doing 2 surgeries with 9 years apart. The bone from the old surgery was already his own bone.
https://tuoitre.vn/di-tim-chieu-cao-mo-uoc-ky-2-hai-lan-keo-chan-cao-them-13cm-20201010110356253.htm
I understand your feelings like the shortest man in the world but I still wanna ruin your dreams about enough time affording you to do 13-14cm or something.You don't foresee both his and your futures after a huge amount lengthening and haven't yet experienced how acute symptoms you will cause to your body unless you can accept to be disable at your old ages.

Firstly maybe he is now healthy but who can predict his future?Secondly he is a special example thus you are likely not to become the same as him.Finally as long as your surgeon is reputable and of good responsiblity he won't advice you to lengthen by such a crazy amount.

Dr.Paley is always advicing patients not to lengthen tibias by no more than 5 and femur by no more than 7cm unless you choose his 3 option(or 4 option?Anyway that option can get you 16cm increasement by surgeries for 4 times and that's very costly not only for price but also for time).

And even that notorious Spanish surgeon is the same with Dr.Paley.

I'm not taller than you a lot for I'm only 163cm.But I think 12cm is a huge number for my body,and in addition I don't my body will permit this drastic lengthening.

So you should know safety is the first.Being disable but 190cm means nothing because you can't stand on the ground forever and you can't even hunt a job,which can destroy your life thoroughly.

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Lengthening limits are set arbitrarily and not by biology. It's individually different, however, in the grand scheme of cases, you can see what is possible. I wouldn't expect to be an outstanding special case (both in a good and bad way). 13 cm tibia in one go? Nope. In 2 goes? Well, that's still a lot and will make you look odd as fk (even if you are 160cm you will have longer tibias than a natural 190cm male with the rest still being at 160cm level) but besides the possible complication of arthritis and biomechanical stuff in the future (debatable topic) if you recover well and there is no misalignment and nerves everything is fine you are probably good. If you are recovered there will be no soft tissue issues. Thinking about the long run is important but only to a certain degree. I wouldn't say ok I am only doing 4cm because my health is important. If your health is important then don't do LL period. If you want to pay the price and risk it to improve mental health you have to do a noticeable height change (which starts at about 5cm+) IMO.

I would advise doing something a lot of people have done in terms of limits. and set yourself a range of goals. Like from 13-16cm (requires 2-3 LLs) or something like that because in the end, you will have to decide once you know how good your body "lets you lengthen".

In general, most people who set crazy goals will do it once and stop. The surgery is such a hard thing that once you do it you will give up doing 3 CLLs and CAL (which is a joke)

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Yeah... And than you remember of dwarfs and etc...
I know it must hurt more for you, but I got you something here:

Got this from Dr. Lee


1. Femur lengthening – max. 8cm (3.15in.); lengthening period of 8cm is about
12 weeks

2. Tibia lengthening – max. 6cm (2.36in.); lengthening period of 6cm is about
12 weeks

3. Femur lengthening of 4cm then 6 months after another 4cm lengthening
(lengthening period of 4cm (1.57in.) is about 6 weeks)

4. Tibia lengthening of 4cm then 6 months after another 4cm lengthening
(lengthening period of 4cm (1.57in.) is about 8 weeks)

5. Femur or Tibia lengthening one leg at a time and lengthening the other leg
(max. lengthening length and lengthening period is same as #1 and #2)

6. Simultaneous tibia and femur lengthening (max 8cm (3.15in.) in total;
lengthening period of tibia and femur each lengthening up to 4cm is about 12
weeks in total)

7. Tibia lengthening up to 6cm then 1 year after femur lengthening up to 8cm
(max 14cm (5.51in.); up to 6cm tibia lengthening and up to 8cm femur
lengthening each takes about 12 weeks)

8. Simultaneous tibia and femur lengthening then at least 1 year after
additional simultaneous tibia and femur lengthening (max 16cm (6.29in.);
lengthening period of tibia and femur each lengthening up to 4cm is about 12
weeks)


Please buddy, don't give up, heads up and save money.