How to avoid height shrinkages as growing older?

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Quote from: ilovescience on February 09, 2022, 05:02:20 PMDoes kettle bells count as weightlifting? I like kettle bells work out and I hope it does not affect spinal cord.

I am not a doctor, and I can’t give a definitive answer. Kettlebells probably don’t exert as much pressure on your spine as other exercise such as squats, deadlift, or military presses.

I was a powerlifter in my youth, and I am already suffering for mild arthrosis in my spine, and I am only 30 years old. Obviously powerlifting played a role in the degeneration of my spine.

Now, not everyone who squat, or deadlift does it with heavy weights, so of course it’s also just a matter of common sense. Deadlifting regularly 500 pounds will be worse for your spine than deadlifting 150 pounds now and then.

If you want to build some muscles and be strong, calisthenics (pullups, pushups, dips etc) will be probably safer for your spine long term than powerlifting.

Check celebheights and many celebrities there. Lot of the fit ones are losing height at a higher rate then others.
Arnold was 187cm at his peak and now is 180cm

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-177.html

Hugh Jackman was 188cm and now is 186.5cm.

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Hugh-Jackman-144.html

Hulk Hogan was 198cm and now 190cm:

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Hulk-Hogan-464.html

The Rock was 190.5cm and now is 189cm:

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Dwayne-Johnson-The-Rock-54.html

Noe all of this is speculation since we don’t really know their peak heights and their actual heights, but they are shirking. Rob Paul from celebheights got an article on the topic:

https://www.celebheights.com/a/19.html

Studies have been done in the past on typical loss of height but results I've seen vary. A recent study revealed the following: "To determine the magnitude of height loss that accompanies ageing, longitudinal studies are required. The authors studied 2,084 men and women aged 17-94 years enrolled from 1958 to 1993 in the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Ageing, Baltimore, Maryland. On average, men's height was measured nine times during 15 years and women's height five times during 9 years. The rate of decrease in height was greater for women than for men. For both sexes, height loss began at about age 30 years and accelerated with increasing age. Cumulative height loss from age 30 to 70 years averaged about 3 cm (1.18 inches) for men and 5 cm (1.97 inch) for women; by age 80 years, it increased to 5 cm for men (1.97 inch) and 8 cm (3.15 inches) for women"

But yeah, doing regularly stuff like this cant be good for your spine or Knees long term:

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This is why I switched to just Yoga.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on February 09, 2022, 07:41:53 PMThis is why I switched to just Yoga.

I have the same mindset as you Medium.

I avoid squats and deadlifts and focus on hypertrophy (8-12 reps) over powerlifting AKA "ego lifting"

You can still maintain and gain lean back and leg mass by using machines and exercises that won't put excessive stress or compress the spine or damage the knees.

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Quote from: battroll on February 09, 2022, 07:17:34 PMI am not a doctor, and I can’t give a definitive answer. Kettlebells probably don’t exert as much pressure on your spine as other exercise such as squats, deadlift, or military presses.

I was a powerlifter in my youth, and I am already suffering for mild arthrosis in my spine, and I am only 30 years old. Obviously powerlifting played a role in the degeneration of my spine.

Now, not everyone who squat, or deadlift does it with heavy weights, so of course it’s also just a matter of common sense. Deadlifting regularly 500 pounds will be worse for your spine than deadlifting 150 pounds now and then.

If you want to build some muscles and be strong, calisthenics (pullups, pushups, dips etc) will be probably safer for your spine long term than powerlifting.

Check celebheights and many celebrities there. Lot of the fit ones are losing height at a higher rate then others.
Arnold was 187cm at his peak and now is 180cm

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-177.html

Hugh Jackman was 188cm and now is 186.5cm.

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Hugh-Jackman-144.html

Hulk Hogan was 198cm and now 190cm:

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Hulk-Hogan-464.html

The Rock was 190.5cm and now is 189cm:

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Dwayne-Johnson-The-Rock-54.html

Noe all of this is speculation since we don’t really know their peak heights and their actual heights, but they are shirking. Rob Paul from celebheights got an article on the topic:

https://www.celebheights.com/a/19.html

Studies have been done in the past on typical loss of height but results I've seen vary. A recent study revealed the following: "To determine the magnitude of height loss that accompanies ageing, longitudinal studies are required. The authors studied 2,084 men and women aged 17-94 years enrolled from 1958 to 1993 in the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Ageing, Baltimore, Maryland. On average, men's height was measured nine times during 15 years and women's height five times during 9 years. The rate of decrease in height was greater for women than for men. For both sxxes, height loss began at about age 30 years and accelerated with increasing age. Cumulative height loss from age 30 to 70 years averaged about 3 cm (1.18 inches) for men and 5 cm (1.97 inch) for women; by age 80 years, it increased to 5 cm for men (1.97 inch) and 8 cm (3.15 inches) for women"

But yeah, doing regularly stuff like this cant be good for your spine or Knees long term:




The "deadlifts and squats are bad for your knees and spine" meme has been debunked an unbelievable amount of times. I mean no offense, but this is a very elementary myth in fitness that people in the know laugh about all the time. Yes, you can lose height in your spine through injury. Bill Kazmaier hasn't lost height, and neither did Larry Scott, Dorian Yates, Ed Coan, Mark Henry, etc.

As for rep ranges, I make zero gains when lifting over 5 reps. I either do 2-5 reps (5 being on the high end), or I don't make gains at all in strength or size.

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Quote from: ReadRothbard on February 09, 2022, 08:02:06 PMThe "deadlifts and squats are bad for your knees and spine" meme has been debunked an unbelievable amount of times. I mean no offense, but this is a very elementary myth in fitness that people in the know laugh about all the time. Yes, you can lose height in your spine through injury. Bill Kazmaier hasn't lost height, and neither did Larry Scott, Dorian Yates, Ed Coan, Mark Henry, etc.

As for rep ranges, I make zero gains when lifting over 5 reps. I either do 2-5 reps (5 being on the high end), or I don't make gains at all in strength or size.

Its really hard to know if those guys you mentioned have lost any height since they are not as famous and there is not as much to compare them with due to that.

Zydrunas seems to be same height as before too.

I still think that heavy deadlifts and squats are bad for your back and I will stick to yoga and calisthenics but by all means carry on with powerlifting if it's what you love.

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Quote from: battroll on February 09, 2022, 07:17:34 PMI am not a doctor, and I can’t give a definitive answer. Kettlebells probably don’t exert as much pressure on your spine as other exercise such as squats, deadlift, or military presses.

I was a powerlifter in my youth, and I am already suffering for mild arthrosis in my spine, and I am only 30 years old. Obviously powerlifting played a role in the degeneration of my spine.

Now, not everyone who squat, or deadlift does it with heavy weights, so of course it’s also just a matter of common sense. Deadlifting regularly 500 pounds will be worse for your spine than deadlifting 150 pounds now and then.

If you want to build some muscles and be strong, calisthenics (pullups, pushups, dips etc) will be probably safer for your spine long term than powerlifting.

Check celebheights and many celebrities there. Lot of the fit ones are losing height at a higher rate then others.
Arnold was 187cm at his peak and now is 180cm

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-177.html

Hugh Jackman was 188cm and now is 186.5cm.

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Hugh-Jackman-144.html

Hulk Hogan was 198cm and now 190cm:

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Hulk-Hogan-464.html

The Rock was 190.5cm and now is 189cm:

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Dwayne-Johnson-The-Rock-54.html

Noe all of this is speculation since we don’t really know their peak heights and their actual heights, but they are shirking. Rob Paul from celebheights got an article on the topic:

https://www.celebheights.com/a/19.html

Studies have been done in the past on typical loss of height but results I've seen vary. A recent study revealed the following: "To determine the magnitude of height loss that accompanies ageing, longitudinal studies are required. The authors studied 2,084 men and women aged 17-94 years enrolled from 1958 to 1993 in the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Ageing, Baltimore, Maryland. On average, men's height was measured nine times during 15 years and women's height five times during 9 years. The rate of decrease in height was greater for women than for men. For both sxxes, height loss began at about age 30 years and accelerated with increasing age. Cumulative height loss from age 30 to 70 years averaged about 3 cm (1.18 inches) for men and 5 cm (1.97 inch) for women; by age 80 years, it increased to 5 cm for men (1.97 inch) and 8 cm (3.15 inches) for women"

But yeah, doing regularly stuff like this cant be good for your spine or Knees long term:




I guess kettle bells should be fine. I see a lot of basketball players do that workout. They never shrink.