I can feel my stature is undermining my life

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Quote from: 419 on August 05, 2018, 09:33:27 PMYou are mistaken, first of all if somebody is blaming their height for failures that have got nothing to do their height it shows mental illness , second if somebody wants to be a model and feel tat is why they need to go from 5/9 to 6'2 or something then it makes a little more sense but not that much. It is not a candy that you just go and buy and eat and feel good. You have no idea what LL means and you have failed to realize that LL should be done/considered only in rare situations and not just because somebody wants to find things to blame (e.g. height) that have got nothing to do with their failures in life.

So explain to me what is the exception for someone wanting to get taller through LL I understand and agree with you on your reasons against but this forum doesn’t just have people who are 5’3 on it who want to be taller if people want it they have every right to do it regardless of the reason this forum should be a place where they can feel that they can share their reasons without feeling like being made public enemy number 1 unfortunately people believe because that because they are shorter then they have a priority over someone else who wants to be taller, you have a problem with your height trust me your not the only one

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Being 5.9 don't let you some times live life at max in terms of dating.
But only that, nothing more or less.
Becoming above 5.11 will fix that problem. If a women rejects an 5.11 for height she is a lunatic and noone should care.

So becoming 6.2 to feel completely ok shows a mental illness.
Your height is ok but not excellent. You dont need more than one LL to be almost excellent though in terms of height.

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hey guys, I've been a little busy so only now I've had time to catch up with the responses and I, wholeheartedly, appreciate your input.
Obviously dating for me, as a young man, is quite important and for all of us it should be, no one enjoys being rejected all the time and see that other guy likely with a less handsome face and fewer qualities taking home the girl you supposedly wanted simply because he's got a more masculine stature. But for me doing LL stretches beyond the inevitable adversities in that field, I genuinely would like to see myself taller and it would such an immense boost in my confidence...in fact, another reason why I believe LL could actually be beneficial for me aesthetically are my short legs. My torso is long and I have short legs and it's embarrassing, I seem disproportionate and from a distance, I seem even shorter because of that trait. It looks like I was supposed to be 6 feet or something like that but my legs didn't accompany my upper body growth. I believe the man looks more aesthetic and manlier with legs longer than the torso something like, in percentages, 55-60% legs, 40-45% torso.
I'm well aware most people here would kill to be 5'9, it's been depressing being at this height, I don't really care about what statistics attest but I don't feel average in London and the UK in general. I hardly ever see white guys as tall as me, usually, I only get to be taller than old people (which doesn't matter), Asians and Indians. I am in fact Portuguese, where the average man, allegedly is 5'8. There I feel normal but I am still towered by many especially young guys. I feel like I am taller than many but still among the men my age I feel behind so statistics don't mean much. Socially it sucks, 5'9 is not enough for people to take you seriously like a real man, I've experienced more than once how people (even siblings and other family members) treat me like if I was inferior and less attractive. All of these things such as the difficulty to attract women, being fatter now and being treated like a child are really killing me, I am treating my depression and working my ass off in the gym but I don't think I will ever own my height.

As far as the athletic ability goes, that is my main concern, I would be happy if with patience I could run at least and workout in the gym, to get a chiselled upper body and try to at least have a bit of mass on my legs relying more on lightweight and more reps. I know this would be tough but who knows I am still young and if I remain aboveboard with going ahead with this once I gather the funds I hope I will still be on my 20s so that could help regarding recovery and to become used to the new elongated bone.

Some of you said aiming for 6'2 would mess me up but quite frankly I believe my proportions could handle an additional 5 inches. Besides, if I only opted to lengthen one of the segments wouldn't it look stupid having long ass femurs and short tibias or the other way around? In theory, it sounds 8cm on my femur and 5cm on my tibias would lengthen both segments and my legs would remain proportionate. That would be 13cm, bringing me to 6'2.

Quote from: 6feet2isTooShort on August 05, 2018, 10:12:02 PMDude, 6'2'' is not enough for top tier hotties. I'm talking 8s+ here. You need 6'3''+ to be in the top tier game now. In recent generations guys have become MUCH taller. And the club scene is insane, all guys 6 feet +, you need to be "THE TALL 6'4''" guy to stand out.

I'm 6'2'' and I only get laid with 7 after hundreds of approaches with maxxxxxed out physique, face and money game. Girls constantly tell me how they love really tall guys. Really tall = 6'4'' or higher. I see these guys with harems of girls. 6'2''  is good in shorter countries, but not in Netherlands, Scandinavia or Eastern Europe.

Are you serious? I think 6'2 is a very good height anywhere, you will tower most chicks and providing you have good social status, money, physique and face you can get pretty much any girl you want... plus girls can't even tell a 2 inch difference let alone inside a crowded nightclub and tipsy. Sorry but this is ludicrous but I understand you and you are in a good position to become seriously tall so if that would make you happier then why not but it might take its toll on your physique. Honestly, why don't you wear 2 inch elevator shoes just whenever you go partying to stand out a bit more? A cheaper, straightforward and faster solution. If you can't get the hottest chicks something else is wrong.



This is all to say that I am depressed and I would never subject myself to something like this now nor do I think my height would solve all my life problems but would it help? oh yes it would and a lot, I don't care what people say but height is very important in men and I don't wanna spend my entire life trying to compensate for something I can't change but will always drag me down.

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TallerDream, I'm just being real with you. For average girls and Beckies - yes, 6'2'' is "sufficient" if you have above average face and are somewhat cool. But for hot girls to actually DESIRE you 6'2'' won't cut it unless you have male model face and very high status. You need more than that to get attention from legit top tier hot girls. Believe me, I know this. I can attract 7s with effort, but 8+ or 9s, there is just not way. They all want tall basketball player type of guys.

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Quote from: 6feet2isTooShort on August 06, 2018, 09:37:06 AMTallerDream, I'm just being real with you. For average girls and Beckies - yes, 6'2'' is "sufficient" if you have above average face and are somewhat cool. But for hot girls to actually DESIRE you 6'2'' won't cut it unless you have male model face and very high status. You need more than that to get attention from legit top tier hot girls. Believe me, I know this. I can attract 7s with effort, but 8+ or 9s, there is just not way. They all want tall basketball player type of guys.

Are you from America? That might be the reason... american chicks are known to be obsessed with tall guys... here in Western Europe, I’ve been to Spain, Italy and France on holidays and I see guys in the 6-6’2 range with really hot girls all the time... you don’t need to be the tallest just tall enough I guess along with other qualities like a good looking face with a sharp jawline, a lean physique, game and social status. In London is pretty much the same scenario. But average guys like me 5’8-5’10 it’s rare that’s a fact

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If you cannot get 8's and 9's at 6'2" it's over. You're already close to swallowing the age pill at 30 too. Life is tough but for those prime women 8-9 like you say it will never happen when you're 40 no matter how tall you are.

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Quote from: TallerDream on August 06, 2018, 12:20:40 PMAre you from America? That might be the reason... american chicks are known to be obsessed with tall guys... here in Western Europe, I’ve been to Spain, Italy and France on holidays and I see guys in the 6-6’2 range with really hot girls all the time... you don’t need to be the tallest just tall enough I guess along with other qualities like a good looking face with a sharp jawline, a lean physique, game and social status. In London is pretty much the same scenario. But average guys like me 5’8-5’10 it’s rare that’s a fact

No, I'm not from America. I'm from a way taller country than US

QuoteYou're already close to swallowing the age pill at 30 too.

Age pill is a meme. For me it doesn't matter. I look way too young. Girls who are younger than me think I'm younger than them. In fact it is a downside if anything. Height, frame and face is everything. Face has to be masculine, but if it is not, you better make up for it by being a "WOW HE IS TALL" guy, not just "tallish".

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friend
I understand you, 6'2 (1.88) is a dream for me too, I have 5'10 (1.78) wingspan 6'1 (1.85), but even for me it would be a great challenge to reach that point , I think maybe I could get 7.5cm in the femur and reach the 6'1 (1,85). but cosmetic stretching is not widespread in Brazil and would be very expensive, the cost of living is expensive in my country.
 
but you seem to be suffering a lot, beware that depression is a serious problem, go to a psychiatrist and psychologist, take care of your mental health, you should not blame your height, maybe being too hard on yourself, get help and take care of mental health, because stretching with much anticipation can cause depression, and if you are already depressed this can be terrible for you and your recovery.
get on well with yourself and then do the stretching as a gift for you.
but take it easy maybe 6'2 is too big and you get disproportionate with your arms

I hope you have a lot of success in your future!

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Honestly, from the massive wall of meek, nervous text you've written I can tell that you're not the kind of guy to get hot girls based on that alone, and that you have some mental issues. Yes your height is short, yes there are plenty of 6ft white guys and white girls are huge on average these days, but there are also 6'+ guys who are in the same situation as you (losers, no friends, trouble getting girls), trust me, A LOT.

If you are not "naturally" able to get hot woman or whatever or you don't feel like you are "naturally" a leader or man then sorry to tell you this but it will probably never happen. No amount of getting taller, body building, "confidence," grooming or surgery even, will ever change that. There are just some people who are just naturally able to do these things, move around better socially, score with women better than you and it's probably all down to brain chemistry. I know 5'6 guys with plenty of friends, who have had hot girlfriends, and really good lives, and I would KILL to be them, but guess what? I personally can't cope with my height at all, and I feel like it's really weighed me down as well. In reality, it probably hasn't as much as I think, but if you let it get into your head it absolutely will.

There are at least 10 million men in America alone who are shorter than 5'5 and living normal lives, getting married, having kids. How? I have no idea honestly. I genuinely can't believe they all don't mass suicide. But they make it work somehow. I will never understand. I would be so miserable I wouldn't be able to leave bed, I would personally definitely have an even more atrocious social and sxx life than I do now. But guess what? I've met and seen guys who are maybe 5'3, who have wives and kids and seem happy and unaffected. And I really mean, despite the fact that they are that height, they really do not pay attention to their height at all, it's insane to me. Some people are just able to cope better, some people just have different brain chemistry. I wish I had a better answer for you but that's the truth. I really think it's unlikely getting LL will change your situation to much, you just sound like an anxious, nervous person to me.

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If you are above 168cm and feel that your life is sh*t  because of your height, then your height is not the primarily problem, but rather your social skills.