I can feel my stature is undermining my life

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on August 06, 2018, 04:08:42 PMHonestly, from the massive wall of meek, nervous text you've written I can tell that you're not the kind of guy to get hot girls based on that alone, and that you have some mental issues.

If a hot tall guy would've made that post, girls would think he is "cute" and "quirky" and that his nervousness is "adorable". Stop sugar coating the harsh truth.

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Quote from: Moon knight on August 05, 2018, 10:13:30 PMSo explain to me what is the exception for someone wanting to get taller through LL I understand and agree with you on your reasons against but this forum doesn’t just have people who are 5’3 on it who want to be taller if people want it they have every right to do it regardless of the reason this forum should be a place where they can feel that they can share their reasons without feeling like being made public enemy number 1 unfortunately people believe because that because they are shorter then they have a priority over someone else who wants to be taller, you have a problem with your height trust me your not the only one

dude, nobody is calling anybody public enemy, people can do whatever they want, just like many people  have destroyed their faces with hundreds of surgeries, it is just that in the west there is too much obsession with 6' height, D cup boobies, perfect nose etc. and people get confused on what is real what is nit needed, what is needed, what is too much, etc.

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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on August 06, 2018, 04:08:42 PMHonestly, from the massive wall of meek, nervous text you've written I can tell that you're not the kind of guy to get hot girls based on that alone, and that you have some mental issues. Yes your height is short, yes there are plenty of 6ft white guys and white girls are huge on average these days, but there are also 6'+ guys who are in the same situation as you (losers, no friends, trouble getting girls), trust me, A LOT.

If you are not "naturally" able to get hot woman or whatever or you don't feel like you are "naturally" a leader or man then sorry to tell you this but it will probably never happen. No amount of getting taller, body building, "confidence," grooming or surgery even, will ever change that. There are just some people who are just naturally able to do these things, move around better socially, score with women better than you and it's probably all down to brain chemistry. I know 5'6 guys with plenty of friends, who have had hot girlfriends, and really good lives, and I would KILL to be them, but guess what? I personally can't cope with my height at all, and I feel like it's really weighed me down as well. In reality, it probably hasn't as much as I think, but if you let it get into your head it absolutely will.

There are at least 10 million men in America alone who are shorter than 5'5 and living normal lives, getting married, having kids. How? I have no idea honestly. I genuinely can't believe they all don't mass suicide. But they make it work somehow. I will never understand. I would be so miserable I wouldn't be able to leave bed, I would personally definitely have an even more atrocious social and sxx life than I do now. But guess what? I've met and seen guys who are maybe 5'3, who have wives and kids and seem happy and unaffected. And I really mean, despite the fact that they are that height, they really do not pay attention to their height at all, it's insane to me. Some people are just able to cope better, some people just have different brain chemistry. I wish I had a better answer for you but that's the truth. I really think it's unlikely getting LL will change your situation to much, you just sound like an anxious, nervous person to me.

That was harsh but it's the truth. My life sucks right now and essentially is because of my poor social skills, not my height. It's difficult to change, I am not an introvert but despite having a few friends and a few sexual experiences under my belt I still feel my life sucks and my biggest flaw is my lack of skill to conquer women through good conversational skills and my personality. And the truth is that no amount of extra height, muscle definition, clothes or grooming is ever gonna make up for that so that's why I am focused on overcoming my depression and trying my best to constantly diversify my daily habits, go out more and get out more of my comfort zone to start ingraining these social competencies I lack. I know I probably will never be charismatic like certain guys, that's usually something that you inherit. However, that doesn't mean I can't improve, I can and I will.

I have reiterated before and I will say this again, get it through your head, I am not doing this because of women, If I go ahead with this I will do it for myself. Will it likely give me a confidence boost when approaching women and perhaps raise my chances to get laid, maybe but a thing I learned is that despite women coming across as shallow, some of them, are more emotional than men. The physical attractiveness matters more to us, when picking a prospective girlfriend or lay or whatever than to them when selecting guys. Hence why I see average guys with hot girls all the time. So no, if I do this is because I want to look taller, more aesthetic with long legs and more masculine. 5'9 sucks because I see nowadays kids left and right as tall as me and makes me feel like crap. So getting taller would make me feel better about myself and more confident to interact with women and conquer them but I see that as an added bonus rather than the main motive to consider LL.
The ability to attract women with what you say or your gestures isn't something LL is gonna teach you, that's a fortitude we all have to learn on our own and will improve our love lives so much more than to lengthen our limbs.

This is all to say getting taller, on its own, won't solve all my problems and miraculously make my life wonderful but it would help me a lot in terms of feeling good about my appearance and become more confident to deal with people regardless of gender. Better to be taller with less athletic ability than stuck with height neurosis that makes you depressed and doesn't let you enjoy life and sucks so much energy out of you.

Hope with this explanation i've shown why I would like to get LL done and haven't shown any signs of "nervousness".

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Quote from: 419 on August 06, 2018, 09:45:12 PMdude, nobody is calling anybody public enemy, people can do whatever they want, just like many people  have destroyed their faces with hundreds of surgeries, it is just that in the west there is too much obsession with 6' height, D cup boobies, perfect nose etc. and people get confused on what is real what is nit needed, what is needed, what is too much, etc.

I understand what your saying but in this day and age who is natural I mean look even at celebrities they change their appearance so much it’s actually only a matter of time before they change their height as well they set the example of what people believe is ok.

It’s just life that people are going to do things to alter themselves any regardless of what we say of think

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Considering everything I’ve said is 5 inches delusional or within reach? My legs are really short and I hate it, it looks disproportionate... What about 3 or 4 inches?

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Quote from: TallerDream on August 07, 2018, 08:20:29 PMConsidering everything I’ve said is 5 inches delusional or within reach? My legs are really short and I hate it, it looks disproportionate... What about 3 or 4 inches?

You’d need to make mock ups first to really know how much you could get away with

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Do a safe 5-6cm on your tibias first, if you feel like your legs are disproportionately shorter this will fix it. Apart from that height is probably not really the problem at 5'9, its other shortcomings that you have and can fix. Charm, wit, humour, likeability etc is not something you're born with, you need to develop these skills over time by being confident in yourself. If you're a donkey now you'll be a bigger donkey after LL. Find things that you can improve in yourself aesthetically (also considering surgery) and that you can take pride in such as a good body posture, a beautiful nose, cheeks, hair-do, hygiene, nice clothes. Then improve yourself mentally, and the best way to do that is to talk to random people, overcome the awkwardness, even if you're the most weird guy you shouldn't be apologetic/shy/disappointed in your conduct, most people you see in London you wont see twice so don't be scared to raise some eyebrows, and you'll soon figure out your strengths. Also know that humor, wit, charm are the next steps to finding confidence.

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Quote from: Tengo on August 08, 2018, 12:57:56 AMDo a safe 5-6cm on your tibias first, if you feel like your legs are disproportionately shorter this will fix it. Apart from that height is probably not really the problem at 5'9, its other shortcomings that you have and can fix. Charm, wit, humour, likeability etc is not something you're born with, you need to develop these skills over time by being confident in yourself. If you're a donkey now you'll be a bigger donkey after LL. Find things that you can improve in yourself aesthetically (also considering surgery) and that you can take pride in such as a good body posture, a beautiful nose, cheeks, hair-do, hygiene, nice clothes. Then improve yourself mentally, and the best way to do that is to talk to random people, overcome the awkwardness, even if you're the most weird guy you shouldn't be apologetic/shy/disappointed in your conduct, most people you see in London you wont see twice so don't be scared to raise some eyebrows, and you'll soon figure out your strengths. Also know that humor, wit, charm are the next steps to finding confidence.

I appreciate your answer and you are right. Like I said, I am not blaming my height for my shortcomings but I wish I could be taller it would really make me feel better about myself and that is the main reason I’m contemplating this procedure. For me getting taller is a dream, whenever I see tall guys I envy them. I wish I could lengthen at least 4 inches. How about 7cm tibias? That would put me at 170cm eye level height. Would that be risky?

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It depends how you feel when you're lengthening but it will increase the disproportion and healing time. You should be able to feel sexy when you walk; if your tibia/femur are too disproportionate you wont look normal walking, you might as well wear 3 inch insoles and avoid the surgery. From what I've read 5-6cm is the safe limit, and it's a very significant height increase.

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took some measurements today and they are as follows:

inseam - 80cm
wingspan - 175cm
height - 175cm
sitting height - 95cm

I'm concerned with the fact my wingspan length is exactly equal to my height to begin with leaving me no room for extra height...
Would I look too weird if I surpassed my wingspan? Can my short legs compensate for that?