Quote from: Sibirsky on April 08, 2017, 11:24:21 AMGood question. I think that anyone eager to do this surgery should deeply reflect on their motivations for doing it. Lack of motivation after you break your legs could lead you to not have good outcomes because you can't push yourself through the pain, physio, and immobility
In my case, nope, I wasn't depressed about my height. I was considered average height in my country at 176 cm, even in the younger generation. Though in short, if a short man becomes average via this surgery, he would have liberated himself from the discrimination of being short, be it from women or other men. For an average-height man becoming tall the same way, he brings onto himself many social benefits i.e. naturally having an aura of dominance over shorter men, making women safer to be around with. No one can deny this.
Lower physical strength to run may or may not be a long term consequence, it may get better with time depending on many factors. Either way, I didn't play much sports or went to the gym to begin with, so I don't think it's too big of a deal
I think that a lifelong consequence would be the change in the natural biomechanics of walking; the femur is naturally longer than the tibia marginally, and this procedures disrupts this balance.
So I suppose yes, I did consider these beforehand, but it's too early to speculate how long it would take to recover to a satisfactory level.
Let's see how much of an "aura of dominance" you have over other guys when you're walking around like a total gimp and look like ass in any physical contact. You must be a real genius XD
I did 8.0 cm LATN on tibias in 2016......AM(a)A : Ask Me (almost) Anything
For all the guys out there: this is a really dangerous surgery. Very imprecise with a lot of minor and major complications. Do not have unrealistic goals specially if you are already tall as in more than 1.75. If your ambition is too much. Lengthen 4-6 in femur and 4- 5 in tibia. Not more. Don fk up your life for vanity.
May I know why you changed your initial goal of 5cm to 8cm?
this whole story is scary, he said he got LL from an *inexperienced* doc who allowed him
- to lengthen 2 mm per day
- to lengthen 8 cm
my only request is to keep updating this journal for up to years after so we can see if irreparable damage has indeed occured
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on April 08, 2017, 10:24:24 PMOne user here (Sweden) lengthened less on his tibias than you did and he regrets his choice, he says he won't ever again be able to perform on the same athletic level, can't excercise without days of pain, can't really run despite 3 years of recovery. Just to put that into perspective of the risks you take. How long did you take to make the choice of having the surgery? What did you friends and family say about it?
I would say it took me about 2 years to decide on doing it as I was collecting money. The thing was I didn't have that much to lose. I know many users on this forum spend a great deal doing sports and going to the gym; they would have a lot to lose in terms of athleticism should they choose to do this surgery. In my case, I just wasn't the sporty type
My family in short didn't agree with my decision but accepted. They probably didn't feel comfortable with me having to go through all the pain and temporary disability, but they did understand why. I was as tall as my sister to begin with, while my brothers were 183 and 188 cm, so I guess they would understand why I would feel like the runt of the litter, having to settle for the short end of the stick genetically
Quote from: Body Builder on April 09, 2017, 02:18:47 AM8cm are too much on tibias and it is for sure that the mechanics of the body won't be the same as before the tibia is way too longer than it used to.
At 1.76 initial height you should have stopped at 6cm max because you would have been tall with a small impact on your sport capabilities which are now much decreased for no real reason.
That said, Sweden has big problems with bone misalignment and thats the main reason for his problems that won't be improved if he doesn't do a new surgery to fix it, not the lengthened height.
So if you are lucky and everything went fine I think that you'll live completely normal but with worse sport cababilities compared to a more sensible lengthening.
But it was your choice and I respect that.
Keep strong!
Thanks a lot for the support BodyBuilder 
All the best to your recovery as well
I'd have to disagree though with the general notion of "max lengthening should be X number of cm, on tibias and Z number of cm on femurs...bla bla". I have consulted several orthopaedists before and after my journey and read abit of journals regarding this. And I think we should look at it in terms of RELATIVE length; relative to your initial bone lengths
The general consensus from the professionals( or at least the ones I've consulted) is that you can lengthen 10% of the initial length without complications, more than that there may be minor complications up until you reach more than 20%, more than 20% and you risk serious complications. So since the average tibia is 43 cm long the true "safe value" is closer to 4cm, and between 4 to 8cm is possible with minor problems
I can attest to this. I had no problems between 0 to 5 cm and after 5 rapidly developed the knee contracture. I probably would also have had bad ballerina if I hadn't worn my ankle splints 24/7, dodged that bullet *phew*. At it's worse, my knee contracture was at 45 degrees when I trained to make them as straight as possible. Also started having tingling after 6cm.
Nevertheless, the contractures have subsided significantly. My knees are both at the initial 0 degrees while my ankles are at about 10 and decreasing everyday with my physio therapy. To those who wish to understand comprehensively the complications of this surgery, I would suggest you read this study meticulously, as opposed to solely listening to the advice from fear-mongerers on the forum.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187705681200151X
Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on April 09, 2017, 09:40:55 AMFor all the guys out there: this is a really dangerous surgery. Very imprecise with a lot of minor and major complications. Do not have unrealistic goals specially if you are already tall as in more than 1.75. If your ambition is too much. Lengthen 4-6 in femur and 4- 5 in tibia. Not more. Don fk up your life for vanity.
Very true. One would have to deeply consider all the risks and potential benefits of the few cms of height before embarking on this journey
The sad truth is that the taller your initial height, the more your body can tolerate the lengthening without developing complications. So paradoxically, the shorter you are, the more you would 'need' the surgery, yet the harder it would be compared to a taller person. Sad, but that's the reality guys...
All that needs to be said here:
Quote from: Auron on April 09, 2017, 10:08:53 AMMay I know why you changed your initial goal of 5cm to 8cm?
Good question. My main plan was a generally agreed upon 'safe' plan: 5cm on tibias and 7 cm on femurs. That would put at about 188 cm, as tall as my brother. But I realised that that I would be spending a total of 1-2 years in either crutches or a wheelchair; it would just be far too long, not to mention the cost of internal femurs 
. So I decided to push myself for that extra 3 cm and reach a respectable 184 cm and not go through such a long time of my life recovering. I was a gymnast throughout my schooling years, I'm very flexible for a guy so I was quite sure my body could take more than the average person
Quote from: vincenzocal on April 09, 2017, 11:12:06 AMthis whole story is scary, he said he got LL from an *inexperienced* doc who allowed him
- to lengthen 2 mm per day
- to lengthen 8 cm
my only request is to keep updating this journal for up to years after so we can see if irreparable damage has indeed occured
With regards to my doctor, I said he wasn't experienced with COSMETIC limb lengthening; he deals with lengthening for deformity regularly. Hes actually a professor of orthopaedics in Vladivostok so I had full confidence in him. And actually if any of you have been reading medical journals, you would realise that 1.0 mm a day is the gold standard of lengthening, but but bones like the femur with good vascularity can go as high as 3.0 mm a day without serious bone issues. But then there are muscle contractures.....
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