Proportions are cope.
Anyone who thinks being 5’ 3” with “normal” proportions is better than being 5’ 8” with worse proportions is an idiot.
OP has a long road to recovery ahead of him, but his life is definitely going to be better for it.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on August 30, 2023, 04:51:46 PMProportions are cope.
Anyone who thinks being 5’ 3” with “normal” proportions is better than being 5’ 8” with worse proportions is an idiot.
OP has a long road to recovery ahead of him, but his life is definitely going to be better for it.
You are right to an extent. The lower the starting height, the less important are proportions. But what is better? 5'8 proportional or 6'1 with 12cm added to femurs?
Imo the first.
The taller you are, the less you need to lengthen to get good results (2 inches added to 5'7-5-9 guys is muuuuuuch more worth than 2 inches added to a 5'3 guy) and the more you have to lose
Quote from: informationispower on August 30, 2023, 04:56:56 PMYou are right to an extent. The lower the starting height, the less important are proportions. But what is better? 5'8 proportional or 6'1 with 12cm added to femurs?
Imo the first.
The taller you are, the less you need to lengthen to get good results (2 inches added to 5'7-5-9 guys is muuuuuuch more worth than 2 inches added to a 5'3 guy) and the more you have to lose
I’m not recommending people do 12 cm on femurs. But everyone’s situation is different. OP’s starting height of 5’ 3” is tiny. Doing only two inches wouldn’t have done very much for him. He’d still be tiny afterwards. He also didn’t have the time or resources to do two surgeries so he had to get what he could out of one surgery. Lastly, he doesn’t care about athletic functionality. That was an acceptable trade-off for him.
Imo, for most people, 8cm on femurs strikes the right balance. Safe. Solid athletic recovery. Meaningful height difference. Doesn’t drastically affect proportions. And do-able in just one surgery.
Going for anything less than 5cm, imo, and this surgery is just not worth it. Better to save your time and money, spare yourself a whole lot of pain / suffering, and focus on other things.
Quote from: slowed & reverb on August 30, 2023, 04:24:09 PMReal. I just dont get anyone who has done more than 6 cm on femur/5 cm on tibias. The more I learn about this surgery, proportions and time passes the more I start to "sober". 9 months ago i was sure I would do 11 cms on both segments, now I know that in order to look normal, 8-9cm in both segments is max you can get away with.
No. The more you overthink about it the more you become crazy. If you're that worried about proportions then you clearly have body dysmorphic disorder problems. But sure, go do 8cm quadrilateral man. It's your opinion, your money, and your time.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on August 30, 2023, 05:10:55 PMI’m not recommending people do 12 cm on femurs. But everyone’s situation is different. OP’s starting height of 5’ 3” is tiny. Doing only two inches wouldn’t have done very much for him. He’d still be tiny afterwards. He also didn’t have the time or resources to do two surgeries so he had to get what he could out of one surgery. Lastly, he doesn’t care about athletic functionality. That was an acceptable trade-off for him.
Imo, for most people, 8cm on femurs strikes the right balance. Safe. Solid athletic recovery. Meaningful height difference. Doesn’t drastically affect proportions. And do-able in just one surgery.
Going for anything less than 5cm, imo, and this surgery is just not worth it. Better to save your time and money, spare yourself a whole lot of pain / suffering, and focus on other things.
I agree with you 100% on the first paragraph.
For the second one, from seeing other people post op pics and vids (and my own mock-ups) I think that 6cms is the max on femurs where your proportions look OK... afterwards for some it looks natural while for others imo it doesn't. Same with recovery. 6-6.5cms seems to be practically a guaranteed almost 100% recovery while above it starts to become really different over each patient.
Kinda agree with the final paragraph but for tibs I believe 3-3.5cms to be the minimum (hence why imo it is better to do femurs)
Quote from: informationispower on August 30, 2023, 03:36:44 PMOf course all these guys say his proportions are fine. All are height obsessed weirdos. Even OP with his acid comments towards lessthanaverage... Funny he makes fun of him while looking like a freak and still ending up being shorter than him lol
That's funny you think he looks like a freak. I think he looks fine. Just goes to show how subjective proportions really is; which is exactly why it's cope.
And now youre gaslighting yourself
Quote from: Confidence on August 30, 2023, 05:40:47 PMThat's funny you think he looks like a freak. I think he looks fine. Just goes to show how subjective proportions really is; which is exactly why it's cope.
10cms on fems. You can't tell me that looks natural
https://imgur.com/a/lwaEbGT
It creates a huge discrepancy between tibia and femur length. Most people would notice it seems off, but honestly they may not know why. I care less about it looking weird and more about the safety of consolidating over 12 cm of bone :/ You tell patients with height dysphoria they can do 12+ cm no problem then they’re all obviously going to jump on it and do that, rather than be safe about it and do 6-8.
Quote from: Ahri on August 30, 2023, 06:52:16 PMIt creates a huge discrepancy between tibia and femur length. Most people would notice it seems off, but honestly they may not know why. I care less about it looking weird and more about the safety of consolidating over 12 cm of bone :/ You tell patients with height dysphoria they can do 12+ cm no problem then they’re all obviously going to jump on it and do that, rather than be safe about it and do 6-8.
100% agree, every centimeter above 6.5 cm in the femurs and 4.5 cm in the tibias and recovery and complications increase exponentially.
It's up to each one to decide if it's worth it
but at one point it is just being irresponsible with your own health
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