Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on August 31, 2023, 03:13:44 AMStandTaller started with femurs that were literally shorter than his tibias fyi. So him doing 11cm is like a normal person doing 7 or 8.
Source?
The average Tibia to Femur ratio is 0.80 with a standard deviation of like 0.02. You’re telling me this dude is like 10 standard deviations above the average? I don’t buy that at all.
In this study of over 1000 people, no one was remotely close to having tibias longer than their femur:
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4036/1/2/9
I did over 12cm on femurs. (Ask Me Anything)..
Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on August 31, 2023, 03:13:44 AMStandTaller started with femurs that were literally shorter than his tibias fyi. So him doing 11cm is like a normal person doing 7 or 8.
Are you sure this is true?? Do you have source? I have been following stand taller logs for a long time and never heard this till now.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on August 31, 2023, 05:52:57 AMSource?
The average Tibia to Femur ratio is 0.80 with a standard deviation of like 0.02. You’re telling me this dude is like 10 standard deviations above the average? I don’t buy that at all.
In this study of over 1000 people, no one was remotely close to having tibias longer than their femur:
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4036/1/2/9
I also don’t buy it. I did 10cm on femurs. Before and after never got 1 single comment or look towards my porportions. I’m healed and waking normal long time. I looks completely regular. OP also looks normal on his poroptions. Only thing visible anyone can honestly tell is anterior pelvic tilt which needs physical therapy to resolve. Much respect to OP he a legend. I did it on my femurs and literally nobody can even tell nothing about no proportions
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on August 31, 2023, 05:52:57 AMSource?
The average Tibia to Femur ratio is 0.80 with a standard deviation of like 0.02. You’re telling me this dude is like 10 standard deviations above the average? I don’t buy that at all.
In this study of over 1000 people, no one was remotely close to having tibias longer than their femur:
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4036/1/2/9
The source is on the literal first page of his journal link that you provided: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.msg268348#msg268348
Quote from StandTaller:
"Luckily I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias. My proportions know are very poor and after going 11cm it will be very good and darn close to ideal."
Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on August 31, 2023, 03:15:54 PMThe source is on the literal first page of his journal link that you provided: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.msg268348#msg268348
Quote from StandTaller:
"Luckily I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias. My proportions know are very poor and after going 11cm it will be very good and darn close to ideal."
I was right. You did cut it off to hide context. He talking about the seat in comparison. Some airline seats are bigger or smaller depending on the airplane or section of plane.
He is not saying his femurs are actually smaller in comparison to his tibias. It’s the seat in comparison. It’s dishonest what you did. I posted his full conversation below
Quote from StandTaller:
“I actually measured how much room I would have with 11cm more on an airplane seat on my to Germany. I should have plenty. Luckily I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias. My proportions know are very poor and after going 11cm it will be very good and darn close to ideal.“
Quote from: mate10000w on August 31, 2023, 04:32:36 PMI was right. You did cut it off to hide context. He talking about the seat in comparison. Some airline seats are bigger or smaller depending on the airplane or section of plane.
He is not saying his femurs are actually smaller in comparison to his tibias. It’s the seat in comparison. It’s dishonest what you did. I posted his full conversation below
Quote from StandTaller:
“I actually measured how much room I would have with 11cm more on an airplane seat on my to Germany. I should have plenty. Luckily I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias. My proportions know are very poor and after going 11cm it will be very good and darn close to ideal.“
Is your reading comprehension that of a 5 year old? It not taken out of context its actually very clear.
"I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias"
"My proportions know are very poor"
What part of this do you not understand? It has nothing to do with the airline seats or them in comparison to his legs. I have no idea how you could even arrive at that.
Theres an entire discussion amongst like 4 people (including him) further down the chain discussing his tibias being longer than his femurs. So it appears that you're the only one that doesnt seem to get it.
Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on August 31, 2023, 04:51:16 PM
Is your reading comprehension that of a 5 year old? It not taken out of context its actually very clear.
"I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias"
"My proportions know are very poor"
What part of this do you not understand? It has nothing to do with the airline seats or them in comparison to his legs. I have no idea how you could even arrive at that.
Theres an entire discussion amongst like 4 people (including him) further down the chain discussing his tibias being longer than his femurs. So it appears that you're the only one that doesnt seem to get it.
No, I think he is right. He was referring to the plane seat and not being literal.
I did some sleuthing. Here goes.
On March 23, he says his femurs are 45cm and his tibias are 37cm. On April 16, he says he has reached 172 cm in length after 7cm lengthening from his original 165cm. So we can estimate that in the month that passed he gained roughly 3 cm. Which means on March 23, he had only lengthened about 4cm.
That means his original femurs are 41 cm and his tibias are 37 cm.
So, no, his femurs aren’t literally shorter than his tibias. I would also be willing to bet that he’s underestimating how long his femurs are. It is common for people to overestimate how long their tibias are and to underestimate how long their femurs are due to the head of the femurs being above the trachonter landmark on the hips.
He himself, in his diary, mentions not being super sure how to measure his tibias and femurs. So it is very likely he made the measuring mistakes most people make. I would guess his original tibia to femur ratio is between 0.83 - 0.90. Longer than most people’s ratio, yes, but nowhere near “femurs shorter than tibia” as you suggested.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on September 01, 2023, 12:12:48 AMNo, I think he is right. He was referring to the plane seat and not being literal.
I did some sleuthing. Here goes.
On March 23, he says his femurs are 45cm and his tibias are 37cm. On April 16, he says he has reached 172 cm in length after 7cm lengthening from his original 165cm. So we can estimate that in the month that passed he gained roughly 3 cm. Which means on March 23, he had only lengthened about 4cm.
That means his original femurs are 41 cm and his tibias are 37 cm.
So, no, his femurs aren’t literally shorter than his tibias. I would also be willing to bet that he’s underestimating how long his femurs are. It is common for people to overestimate how long their tibias are and to underestimate how long their femurs are due to the head of the femurs being above the trachonter landmark on the hips.
He himself, in his diary, mentions not being super sure how to measure his tibias and femurs. So it is very likely he made the measuring mistakes most people make. I would guess his original tibia to femur ratio is between 0.83 - 0.90. Longer than most people’s ratio, yes, but nowhere near “femurs shorter than tibia” as you suggested.
Bud, theres no possible way to misinterpret what he said. He verbatim said his femurs are shorter than his tibias. It has nothing to do with the f-cking airplane seat.
Could he be wrong in his statement? Sure thats possible. If this is bothering you so much you should just go ask him. Hes on the forum.
Regardless, from your own measurements: 37/41 = .90 Thats still an absurd ratio. He started with very short femurs.
Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on September 01, 2023, 12:32:57 AMBud, theres no possible way to misinterpret what he said. He verbatim said his femurs are shorter than his tibias. It has nothing to do with the f-cking airplane seat.
Could he be wrong in his statement? Sure thats possible. If this is bothering you so much you should just go ask him. Hes on the forum.
Regardless, from your own measurements: 37/41 = .90 Thats still an absurd ratio. He started with very short femurs.
Yes I agree with you lol. He misspoke. He wasn’t being literal with his statement “my femurs are shorter than tibias” seeing as how he didn’t even know how long they were a few months later.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on September 01, 2023, 12:44:01 AMYes I agree with you lol. He misspoke. He wasn’t being literal with his statement “my femurs are shorter than tibias” seeing as how he didn’t even know how long they were a few months later.
it is so strange to argue and debate when the owner was not really responding at all! LOL
Quote from: Bagga on September 01, 2023, 01:34:47 AMit is so strange to argue and debate when the owner was not really responding at all! LOL
Who’s the owner? XD
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