I have decided to call it off

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The fear is too big. Since the booking of the surgery I had sleepness nights with alot of anxieity. It's not worth the risks in my height. My life was good till now and it will be afterwards. Dont want to risk my life in order to fulfil a dream which might be false. A dream which was created by the internet which had nothing to do with real life.
  I have lived life to it's fullest with my 5'7 (171cm) till now, and there is no reason I wouldnt be able to continue to do so.

 As I told you before I have spoken with Israeli docs. There is a reason why this procedure is forbidden in Israel to people of my height. Again, the risks are too big. When I calculate risk/gain ratio, it's simply not worth it.

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Quote from: Ozymandias on April 03, 2016, 03:09:52 PMFrom a fellow 5'7 guy, greatest respect for your decision if you have weighted the pros and cons (and nothing makes me think you haven't). I'm a bit curious about what the Israeli docs told you. I mean, we all know that most doctors are against cosmetic LL, but you said "dont want to risk my life in order to fulfil a dream..." Did they tell you about any death related to this surgery?

By life I meant becoming crippled or not walking normally. I meant risking the life I have now

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Quote from: Peaceout on April 03, 2016, 05:10:58 PMI know this is very scary..I would probably freak out too.But you have the oppurtunity to do it and move on.If you cancel it now it will be somewhere in your mind for many years probably.(im not saying you cant live a life without thinking about your height,of course you can.But this is very hard to accomplish,atleast it is hard for me.)
Im not saying do it no matter what.
Im just trying to say think again and again before canceling.

Catagni just answered me about the cancellation: "Ok, you made the right decision. You can be happy with life without a few more inssignificant cms"

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Quote from: trevor on April 03, 2016, 05:35:35 PMI think you made a right decision given your height but I'm curious because I don't think it's just a coincidence that you called it off a day after some guy pricess started vaguely claiming that your doctor ruined his life. My hunch is that you talked to him on pm and he gave you some details that scared you off. Can you share what he told you.

He didnt pm me anything. I had my doubts the second I booked the surgery. I will admit that his posts didnt help. But I had alot of "WTF I am doing" moments. There is too much to lose in this (for me) than there is to gain.

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Quote from: Peaceout on April 03, 2016, 05:51:37 PMBut you were so active on this forum with a very positive attitude about this procedure.What happened exactly?What was the triger for cnceling?

I had a positive attitude on the forum yes. But the guys I have spoken with privately on FB (I added some forum members via PM to my FB) know my doubts. I did not sell anything. I still do not believe that this procedure is as dangerous as we wanna think. But once you are almost doing it, you can really reflect. I had alot of doubts. I got to the conclusion that even if the risk is 1%, it's still 1% highier than what I can accept to risk.

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Catagni called my mom this morning (We exchanged numbers after the consultation).

 To sum it up, he said to her that my decision was the wisest decision I could have, and that he just waited for me to arrive to it by myself because in the end he would have told me that he refuse to operate on me.
  Only LL surgeon that is not a salesman (which explains why he is not so well known around here even though he is the guy that brought this LL thing to the west from Russia), a true doctor. I applaud this man.

 A closing statemant before my definitive departure from this forum and height complex:

I am just going to quote what he told my mom on the phone. "Why the hell did he wanna put himself through that? He is completely normal and *alot of nice things about me*. This height complex is not because of height... It's something else. When one has negative feelings, it is easy to find something to blame for. Usually that thing is something physical. This height insecurity in men of his height (and even 165 and up) and up is just like anorexia in women. It's easy to blame height because it is the only physical charateristic that is measurable in numbers (unlike facial aesthetics or muscularity). Usually the pain comes from something else. The height gain won't solve anything because his height is not a problem. At the consultation I saw a man with high self esteem. If he would have been silent and super shy, I could understand that maybe there is a problem of self esteem and maybe this thing would help. But it was not the case for him."

So to all people of little below average to aeverage and tall, get a grip of yourselves.

This is me saying goodbye and good luck to all

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Quote from: KiloKAHN on April 04, 2016, 07:14:14 AMCongratulations on reaching the decision to avoid this surgery, TIBIKE.

I think Dr Catagni's advice is good for certain cases, such as when the starting height is average or just under, but perhaps his advice doesn't really apply to those with a significantly shorter starting height. I remember trying to just be more confident, walk around faking self-esteem until it turned into real self-esteem, despite how much I thought about height. But I remember being "triggered" one night in a burger joint when a tourist family from somewhere in Europe started snickering at how little the man in front of them was. Turned around and saw that they were snickering at me. I felt so miserable for the longest time afterward that I knew there was no going back and it was do the surgery or bust.

In brief, if someone has a starting height well below average, I believe cosmetic lengthening has real benefit in terms of others treating you better.

Indeed it does. I said it in the end "near average, average and tall". He said I was one of the tallest patients he ever saw entering his office. Everything I have said on this forum regarding height was only from my perspective. I never said that people shorter than me should feel the same as me.

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This is completely idiotic. All this rubbish about a tall guy surely getting a hot girl.

 Listen bud, I have seen both tall and not tall and even short guys dates both gorgeous and ugly women.
 The equation doesnt go "The taller you get the hotter the chicks you date get" but it just means you will not be disregarded which is esencially a larger dating pool. If a chick dates you at your 5'7 it means your height is enough... Being taller won't make the relationship work better and she wouldnt dump you for another guy just because you arent tall enough...
 Ugh... I have dated women, some were decent and others were hot... Yeah, I am 100% aware that if I will be taller I will be able to date MORE women but not MORE ATTRACTIVE women. Make the difference bud.

 And about me creating a clone account called pricess, no... Its not me.... It is stupid idiotic family friends who wanted to scare me off (And sadly succedded).

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Quote from: Cheez on June 11, 2016, 04:28:20 PMI had this feeling when I was younger. But over the years I noticed, that a lot of people in my bigger circle of friends didn't manage to do better (for example with women) even if they were taller.

For instance, I know a couple of athletic 190cm guys, where I can safely say that I had more and prettier women than them.

Being tall is not everything. You still need the whole package.

But feeling you have "the whole package", and the only thing that hinders you is your height is still irking me.
I think you can pay the best doctor the largest sums, but if you don't take care about your healing process yourself, overlengthen, have LATN and then afterwards chronic knee pain or other things like that paying the best doctor doesn't mean much and you can still be fked in the end.

btw, this post wasnt directed at you, I just quoted you because I wanted to use some of the facts you said

Just have a level headed approach to LL and things are going to be okay, I think.

 That's because unlike what many not short losers say around here (I am talking 175 and up), being taller is not a ticket into pussy land or into "OMG I am so popular kingdom".
  Sincerly, you are absolutly no right to "blame" your height if you have absolutely no success with women (Even if you are below 170). If till your late 20's you couldnt manage to be with atleast one woman, I am sorry to break it to you, but you do indeed have a problem, but it's not your height.
 Also, the notion that "taller is always better" needs to be a little bit put into sense... Being 190 has absolutely no advantage over someone who is 180. Once you arent short anymore, it doesnt matter how tall you are... LL is a ticket out of shorthood. Since, being tall has absolutely no advantages over someone who is not considered short.
 "If all else is equal, height matters" (I know you didnt say it), yes it is indeed correct... But you know what? You arent equal to anybody in any aspect (especially aesthetic aspects). This hypothetical equation is good for therotical physics, not the real world.

90% of the people here will remain miserable even after LL (And even if they could magically become 185).
  This forum is toxic (to a lesser extent than the other one though) with anything regarding height BDD.. This maniacal glorification of height is utterly disgusting.

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Quote from: The Kaiser on October 14, 2016, 08:17:20 PMI think to call it off if you can't afford the top 3 doctors. you can length 5-6 cm and be fine if you don't care a lot about sport. call it off if you don't have big budget and you can't go to top doctor, only Russian, Chinese and Indian

 I have budget to go to anyone... And why is this old thread keeps coming back up?