can you give me some insight in what is "normal"/"acceptable" height for a female? I'm asking strangers because it feels less bias that way; whereas with friends, they always give the same "no one notices your height!" "you're fine!! surgery is not worth it" "but short girls are cute" speech.
[and if there are any females on this site, please give me your opinion]
I've been considering this surgery for a while, but before I start making some major life-adjustments to save up for it, I want to make sure I'm not being "unneccessary" with this intense procedure, hence the question:
is 154cm (basically 5ft) really short for a girl? :/ I'm 19 and haven't grown since middle school.. Also I live on and off in the US and S.Korea, where the standard height for females is like 5 inches taller than me...it sucks because I tutor middle schoolers and they're all taller than me... and everyday they say the same joke like "are you really in college?! youre so short, stand up!"
I want to do internals [precise] on femur [6 - 8cm], and external on tibia [5cm or whenever my body says "no more" lol]. Procedures would be 3 years apart, starting from when I turn 22. Thinking about Paley/Dr.Dongho lee. so a total of 11 to 13 cm. honestly i hope i can do 14cm total...but thats just a hope. Anyways, my new potential height would be somewhere from 5'4 to 5'5, or possibly really close to 5'6.
Long ass intro/outro to a short ass question lol.
and here are some other questions!:
1. whats considered normal female height where you're from [don't answer if youre from europe, you're just gonna break my heart, yall be skyscrapers T-T actually, please do answer, i can take the pain lol]
2. if you were a 5ft tall female, would you do LL?
3. Do you think, from your male or female perspective, there is a bigggg difference between a 5ft girl and a 5'5 girl?
4. Do you even notice when a female is 5ft?! I know for guys, theres a big emphasis on height in society so girls are conditioned to notice a guys height asap and judge them but...what about for guys to girls lol? Or do you not even see 5ft girls because we're out of your peripheral view BECAUSE ALL YALL SO GODDAMN TALL! even the 5'4 guys on here...i would love to be naturally 5'4...this wasn't really a question tbh..oh wait it was..do you even notice a girls height? [females yall can answer too]
Just don't. You have no idea what you are signing yourself for. Plus you won't look better or hold a higher value post-LL - the opposite is more likely. Tibia scarring, 13 cm total amount of lengthening, not sure what you're thinking about. Also, 5' is obviously short but "normal short" for a female. The one and only way to lengthen for a female is all-internal low amount of lengthening (up to 8 cm or 3" for TWO surgeries). Or super low lengthening internal femurs (up to 5 cm or 2") That won't give you much anyway
5 feet is short but not abnormally short for women and being a woman you can wear heels. You don't have any social stigma placed on you like a short man does. So avoid the surgery and focus on improving in other things.
Quote from: childish_bambino on August 22, 2017, 06:38:54 AMcan you give me some insight in what is "normal"/"acceptable" height for a female? I'm asking strangers because it feels less bias that way; whereas with friends, they always give the same "no one notices your height!" "you're fine!! surgery is not worth it" "but short girls are cute" speech.
[and if there are any females on this site, please give me your opinion]
I've been considering this surgery for a while, but before I start making some major life-adjustments to save up for it, I want to make sure I'm not being "unneccessary" with this intense procedure, hence the question:
is 154cm (basically 5ft) really short for a girl? :/ I'm 19 and haven't grown since middle school.. Also I live on and off in the US and S.Korea, where the standard height for females is like 5 inches taller than me...it sucks because I tutor middle schoolers and they're all taller than me... and everyday they say the same joke like "are you really in college?! youre so short, stand up!"
I want to do internals [precise] on femur [6 - 8cm], and external on tibia [5cm or whenever my body says "no more" lol]. Procedures would be 3 years apart, starting from when I turn 22. Thinking about Paley/Dr.Dongho lee. so a total of 11 to 13 cm. honestly i hope i can do 14cm total...but thats just a hope. Anyways, my new potential height would be somewhere from 5'4 to 5'5, or possibly really close to 5'6.
Long ass intro/outro to a short ass question lol.
and here are some other questions!:
1. whats considered normal female height where you're from [don't answer if youre from europe, you're just gonna break my heart, yall be skyscrapers T-T actually, please do answer, i can take the pain lol]
2. if you were a 5ft tall female, would you do LL?
3. Do you think, from your male or female perspective, there is a bigggg difference between a 5ft girl and a 5'5 girl?
4. Do you even notice when a female is 5ft?! I know for guys, theres a big emphasis on height in society so girls are conditioned to notice a guys height asap and judge them but...what about for guys to girls lol? Or do you not even see 5ft girls because we're out of your peripheral view BECAUSE ALL YALL SO GODDAMN TALL! even the 5'4 guys on here...i would love to be naturally 5'4...this wasn't really a question tbh..oh wait it was..do you even notice a girls height? [females yall can answer too]
I'm around 5'11 and I have a thing for short girls. It turns me on seeing a hot/pretty/cute short girl cause I can just toss them around and do whatever in the bedroom. A lot of guys over 6 feet think the same way.
Height on girls doesn't really matter unless you are very short or tall (less than 5ft or more than 5.9-10).
You are short but for most of men this won't be a drawback, for many of them it will be a benefit too as they like short girls.
Yes a 5.5 girl will look better proportionally as generally 5.4 to 5.7 are the best heights where women look good and feminine but still your height is not a problem to think about something so hard and risky like LL.
If you are good looking then you won't have any problem in anything. If you are not, try to be fit and maybe do a boobjob which is far easier and cheaper than LL and is much more important for a woman than height (if she has small breasts).
So in a few words, don't do LL, you don't need it.
As a short female, I can advise you not not listen to males here. They're obviously clueless.
It's true that as a short female, you have much less problem than if you were a male.
It's also true that many guys are attracted to small girls, but it's often because they're insicure misogynists and see small females as easier to submit. It's not positive at all.
Plus, it's only you who can decide how do you feel, not anyone else. Being too short, regardless of sxx, makes it harder to being taken seriously; and especially if you have a young face, could lead people to mistaken you for a teenager even if you're in your mid-tweenties (in fact people don't believe you're in college and tease you)
I don't say you need to be 170cms. But being at least 161, 162 cms and wearing heels, would be very different than being 154cms with heels. You wouldn't feel so far comparing to 170cms tall girls anymore. You decide.
Quote from: Annalisa on August 22, 2017, 11:17:01 AMtrue that many guys are attracted to small girls, but it's often because they're insicure misogynists and see small females as easier to submit. It's not positive at all.
Don't speak for the males, you sound like a clueless feminist.
Men like shorter girls for the same reasons why girls like babies. It's instinct and it makes us want to protect girls. It's a very positive thing actually.
It even protects feminists like you from getting smacked in the face when they talk sh*t that men would have gotten a blue eye for it!
@childish_bambino
We men are hunters and I can promise you that we spot EVERY girl, no mater where or how short they are. It's what we do ;-)
I'm a short guy (163,5cm after one surgery), so I wouldn't mind your height at all, but because of my own short stature I can also relate to how it feels like to not be taken seriously by others.
In Europe (yes, I said it), where I live, about 7 in 50 girls are shorter than 165cm and only one of them is like your height.
So, your height is as rare among girls as mine is among men.
I know, it sucks.
But at least you can still date (almost) every man on this planet. I can't. I depend on finding my soulmate among short girls like you who are...well, very rare.
At one point in my life, I was stupid and tried to commit suicide because of all the discrimination from the guys, and the laughter from the girls. Exclusion kills you from the inside!
LL is now what has given me new hope and a reason to live on. So I would like to encourage you to do LL. As a >160cm tall girl, you would be much closer to average than I could ever be as a man, even after my second surgery.
Good luck!
Quote from: Chris on August 22, 2017, 03:45:56 PMDon't speak for the males, you sound like a clueless feminist.
Men like shorter girls for the same reasons why girls like babies. It's instinct and it makes us want to protect girls. It's a very positive thing actually.
It even protects feminists like you from getting smacked in the face when they talk sh*t that men would have gotten a blue eye for it!
@childish_bambino
We men are hunters and I can promise you that we spot EVERY girl, no mater where or how short they are. It's what we do ;-)
I'm a short guy (163,5cm after one surgery), so I wouldn't mind your height at all, but because of my own short stature I can also relate to how it feels like to not be taken seriously by others.
In Europe (yes, I said it), where I live, about 7 in 50 girls are shorter than 165cm and only one of them is like your height.
So, your height is as rare among girls as mine is among men.
I know, it sucks.
But at least you can still date (almost) every man on this planet. I can't. I depend on finding my soulmate among short girls like you who are...well, very rare.
At one point in my life, I was stupid and tried to commit suicide because of all the discrimination from the guys, and the laughter from the girls. Exclusion kills you from the inside!
LL is now what has given me new hope and a reason to live on. So I would like to encourage you to do LL. As a >160cm tall girl, you would be much closer to average than I could ever be as a man, even after my second surgery.
Good luck!
7 out of 50 girls are shorter than 165? where did you get that rubbish?
No seriously if you are listening to someone say "I like short girls because I can toss them around and whatever and so many guys feel the same way" then yeah I don't think every woman would like to hear that. So that's not really a good thing to say. Although LLSouthAmerica is spot on, it is women who tend to have the need to feel small and helpless and men don't tend to often care about that unless they have a fetish.
I personally like short girls, because they're cute, and also because I'm insecure about my own height (so I usually go for short girls).
I do feel like if a short woman is open to dating short men then she has a big dating pool, and also that a lot of men do like short women for whatever reason. So in dating I think being a short woman, like being a tall man, is quite a good bonus (but not as big as being a tall man as women care more about height).
I can see that short women, like short men, are not always taken seriously. They are insulted less often but they are treated like children as often, when they get angry they aren't taken seriously etc.
I think if I was a woman I'd prefer to be average height, but if I was short I'd personally roll with the punches. I think I might rather be a short than a tall woman. I think there are positives and negatives in equal measure to being a short woman, but being a short man is basically an entirely negative experience. I think that having nothing to lose and everything to gain is probably what "justifies" LL (although of course I won't judge anyone who does the surgery- I'm just thinking in terms of what is worth risking).
I don't think there is a huge difference between a 5' and 5'5" girl however, height is much less important for women. Yeah we do notice your height but not in a negative way (whereas for short guys, height is always noticed in a negative way, unfortunately).
I'd say a "normal" female height is something like 5'2"-5'7", if by "normal" you mean average. But that doesn't make your height unattractive. Just like the way some women would find a height 5 inches above average like 6'3" ideal, some men would also find your 5" sub-average height very attractive. Again, it works differently for women. For a man to be considered generally speaking attractive to a large number of women I think his height would have to be in the 5'8"-6'4" range. For a woman height matters much less, maybe between 5'0" and 5'10" is where it looks "normal" and not odd, but again it doesn't really matter so much.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on August 22, 2017, 03:51:56 PM7 out of 50 girls are shorter than 165? where did you get that rubbish?
That's the girls in my life. I count short girls, it's a habit.
Come to Germany (the south) and count for yourself ;-)
If I would take the 30-year-olds into account, they would be more.
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