Is it just me or is every other guy 6ft or taller?

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You never cared about your height until you immersed yourself in a toxic trolling culture that doesn't match reality.  There's your problem.  Crap like Tinder is 80% guys who swipe right on every girl.

Like the guy who didn't care about being muscular until he started watching pro wrestling, and starts thinking of himself as a puny wimp who had better dedicate his life to bodybuilding or he will never be good enough.

(That guy was me in the early 2000s by the way.  Getting LL and watching what happened to guys I idolized like Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit cured me of that form of body dysmorphia.)  Luckily for you at your height, all you need is a reality check to be cured of yours.

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Maybe I was just oblivious to everything because of work and school and hobbies.

Chris Benoit was my favorite wrestler. He wasn't Short, I think he was close to 6ft wasn't he? Sucks what happened.

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Work, school, and hobbies are real life.

That incident actually happened while I was in China.  As with all wrestlers, their billed heights and weights were exaggerated.  Benoit and Guerrero were about 5'8 and 5'6 in shoes.  Roided up to the max to make up for their lack of height.

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Quote from: NotTall84 on August 30, 2022, 10:12:54 PMMaybe I was just oblivious to everything because of work and school and hobbies.

Chris Benoit was my favorite wrestler. He wasn't Short, I think he was close to 6ft wasn't he? Sucks what happened.
Then you should focus on those things that you already uncovered to be ignored by yourself instead of distorting the reality like every man around you is over 6ft, which is very contrary to the reality.

Height can just boost up your self-esteem dating pool and maybe occupational opportunities and that's all. Don't get too obsessed with it.

I suggest if you are still unable to get LL just focus on other things and don't immerse yourself in height-related toxic stuffs like men under 6ft are non-human or similar baloneys. They are harmful to your life and you should keep yourself safe, albeit, height is important in modern world, but never can benefit the family, society and world like having good capacities personalities educations etc.

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^^^^^

The problem is that height obsession is so damn prevalent. Women are heightists, even obese, unattractive women are obsessed with tall men.

And tall men will obviously play into this as well to boast themselves up.

I am able to get LL but I am hesitant about the pain and suffering afterwards. It's the only thing stopped me from doing it.

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You don't know what real height discrimination is until you've been short.  Yeah, nobody's going to admire you and love you for your height.  Poor you, you'll have to win people over on merit.  If you can't handle playing the game of life on normal mode then your problem isn't in your legs, it's in your head.

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Quote from: Scientifist on August 31, 2022, 02:57:49 PMHeight can just boost up your self-esteem dating pool and maybe occupational opportunities and that's all. Don't get too obsessed with it.

"just"
Literally all the things that matter in life. Besides those what else is there? Muh hobbies? Muh dog?

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on September 01, 2022, 01:33:46 AMYou don't know what real height discrimination is until you've been short.  Yeah, nobody's going to admire you and love you for your height.  Poor you, you'll have to win people over on merit.  If you can't handle playing the game of life on normal mode Nightmare mode then your problem isn't in your legs, it's in your head.

Fixed that for you

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Quote from: NotTall84 on August 30, 2022, 05:47:54 PMWell, it's not just zoomers but their generation is a lot taller I have noticed.

Also,women even in my age group (I'm 37) have no issue in dating much younger men which leaves older shorter guys like me out in the dust.

I never cared much about my height till I immersed myself in Internet culture and dating. I had a sudden moment of clarity and realized something I never even thought about probably affected my life completely.

It was like a smack in the face and a hand around my neck.

I see from your signature you have had LL, has it improved your life a lot? I'm at the height you are now basic and still feel short. Seems like anything under 6ft will be looked at as short.

i did LL yes and it did improve my life. 2 inches aint a joke, it sounds like a tiny amount, and when you put your fingers 2 inches apart it seems like nothing but when you put it on the legs its a completely different story. thats almost an entire deviation upwards

what im very thankful to the entire process is that it made me appreciate many things in life i never cared for before such as

being able to take a sheet and get up from the toilet and enter the shower and have a nice hot shower standing up without having to spend a lot of time calculating your movements and figuring out with which hand should you support yourselves at each step
having a pain free body
being able to go anywhere on a whim and enjoy life and hobbies and socializing


i lost 6 months of my life to this because i kept it a secret from 100% of my friends and family, however in return i got 2 inches taller, longer beautiful tibias and cured height dysphoria for the tiny amount of money I paid(paid like 20k for a 4 month package) makes it all worth it

now if i had to go through this entire 6 month ordeal because of some kind of a car accident without gaining height, i would've been hellishly depressed and angry

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Quote from: boklecrt on September 01, 2022, 02:41:54 AMi did LL yes and it did improve my life. 2 inches aint a joke, it sounds like a tiny amount, and when you put your fingers 2 inches apart it seems like nothing but when you put it on the legs its a completely different story. thats almost an entire deviation upwards

what im very thankful to the entire process is that it made me appreciate many things in life i never cared for before such as

being able to take a sheet and get up from the toilet and enter the shower and have a nice hot shower standing up without having to spend a lot of time calculating your movements and figuring out with which hand should you support yourselves at each step
having a pain free body
being able to go anywhere on a whim and enjoy life and hobbies and socializing


i lost 6 months of my life to this because i kept it a secret from 100% of my friends and family, however in return i got 2 inches taller, longer beautiful tibias and cured height dysphoria for the tiny amount of money I paid(paid like 20k for a 4 month package) makes it all worth it

now if i had to go through this entire 6 month ordeal because of some kind of a car accident without gaining height, i would've been hellishly depressed and angry

How are you now? Any real lasting negative effects at all?

You are right, even 2 inches can change the way a man thinks. Imagine being 5'6 and you become 5'8. You are not closer to "average" and won't be looked at as the short guy. I know 5'9 is not technically short, but I wouldn't mind sacrificing half a year to be 6ft, as long as I can make a good recovery.

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Quote from: NotTall84 on September 03, 2022, 12:41:38 AMHow are you now? Any real lasting negative effects at all?

You are right, even 2 inches can change the way a man thinks. Imagine being 5'6 and you become 5'8. You are not closer to "average" and won't be looked at as the short guy. I know 5'9 is not technically short, but I wouldn't mind sacrificing half a year to be 6ft, as long as I can make a good recovery.

im doing fine, super tight in the mornings but stretches out as you walk to the toilet to take a piss after that its fine. im 4 months into recovery. i dont see why there would be any lasting negative effects, ive got union on all 4 bones and just need to continue my recovery is all


no need to imagine anything, i got from 5 7 to 5 9. its good enough for me, its 5'11 with my shoes which feels plenty "enough"
yes there are MANY taller guys than me but at that height the difference is not that big so i dont feel immediately threatened and on edge when a tall guy is next to me

for 6 ft you need 3 inches

6 months is for 2 inches on tibia

for 3 inches you need femurs, and internal at that. do not obsess about calculating your bone lengths and proportions and all that  . forget about all that. just get your cash together, get a good doc and do it

if youre able to devise a solid plan for working-saving and then having 7-9 months free to focus on the whole process you should do it. or if you have savings already

id have LL instead of buying a 60k fancy car or something. much better return on investment(permanently and for life)