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Posted on Nov 8, 2019, 11:46 pm
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I made a mistake in the past and now I am paying for it for the rest of my life. I keep thinking that what I did was unforgiveable.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 2:04 am
#2
You are still young and have time to save money for much safer LL
Seems you are getting sicker than the last year I’m worried
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 2:24 am
#3
What did you do?
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 3:53 am
#4
I did the same, but now there is no recompense for that, I did LL but it still cannot give me what I couldve gotten from natural growth ofcoarse. You see the natural growth is very proportional. I did about 2.2inches ll and i believe I lost around 2.5-3inches in my growing years definetely. Loosing more than that doesn't make sense to me because my genetic potential was around 5'11 max anyways but i ended up 5'8.

I did gain back through ll and its unproportional(concentrated in lower limbs) but hey atleast it got me taller. The main culprits during the puberty years and throughout teenage were 4 factors. Mediocre Nutrition, Poor sleep, minimal exercises and stressful environment. Stress and nutrition has the biggest role, it basically suppresses the testosterone levels by producing more cortisol. And lower T-levels mean lower bone growth because lower growth hormones factors influenced.

The biggest regret is missing out on natural growth. yea ll may have given me back 80% of my missed vertical growth but thats the thing, growth energy isnt all targeted at height only. the hormones/energy is utilized for lengthening arms, fingers, feet, spine, clavicle, shoulders, ribcage everything at the same time and height is just a part of it. so basically it just grows the whole frame proportionally, even growing facial bones and improving the facial symmetry and aesthetics. It growns the organs, brains, hearts etc aswell. its not overhauled.

Loosing 2-3 inches may not sound much, but considering its a result of loosing bone/muscle mass proportionally throughout the human frame, not just the vertical length of bones. Its like a 10 year old boy vs a 25y old man. he aint just taller but bigger overall.

gaining back something from cll be it unproportional atleast mends the wound caused by missed growth during teenage based on genetic potential. thts y i always advice growing youngsters to not make the same mistakes.

What you said is deep and profound u might or might not've realised. Forgiving is really difficult, but you must forgive yourself and accept this fate. I forgave myself long ago i remember even before i ever planned on cll but now even after cll, sometimes, the past still haunts me. But what is the only recompense is I pour this knowledge to the teenagers who matter to me and save them especially in this electronic and stressful era. The regrets grow less on me every year and I accept who I am.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 2:09 pm
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Quote from: Sanity on November 09, 2019, 03:53:50 AM...

Do you actually have solid indication that you've stunted your growth by 2.5-3 inches, other than just your feeling? I'm talking about stuff like pediatrician's growth charts. Eating little is not a proof you've stunted your growth, I was long convinced I did stunt my growth until I went to my old pediatrician and he showed me my growth chart. At 2 years I was half my current height, if you multiply a child's height at 2 years by 2, you get a good prediction of their adult height.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 2:48 pm
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Lol r u kidding me. Is it a trol. Ive seen kids who were tiny during childhood, who grew to be 6'6-6'7 giants. Most of their growth came during puberty. Wth u talking abt. Those ppl must be 4 times smaller when they were at 2. Lol
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 3:05 pm
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Outliers always exist, but usually, tall children become tall adults and short children do not become tall adults. Look at Trump's son, he was very tall for a 10 year old kid, when he was 10, and he's going to be a very tall adult. Taking a kid's height at 2 and doubling it a well-known  method for predicting height for pediatricians. Source

Do you have access to your growth charts, Sanity?
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 10:35 pm
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Quote from: Sanity on November 09, 2019, 03:53:50 AMI did the same, but now there is no recompense for that, I did LL but it still cannot give me what I couldve gotten from natural growth ofcoarse. You see the natural growth is very proportional. I did about 2.2inches ll and i believe I lost around 2.5-3inches in my growing years definetely. Loosing more than that doesn't make sense to me because my genetic potential was around 5'11 max anyways but i ended up 5'8.

I did gain back through ll and its unproportional(concentrated in lower limbs) but hey atleast it got me taller. The main culprits during the puberty years and throughout teenage were 4 factors. Mediocre Nutrition, Poor sleep, minimal exercises and stressful environment. Stress and nutrition has the biggest role, it basically suppresses the testosterone levels by producing more cortisol. And lower T-levels mean lower bone growth because lower growth hormones factors influenced.

The biggest regret is missing out on natural growth. yea ll may have given me back 80% of my missed vertical growth but thats the thing, growth energy isnt all targeted at height only. the hormones/energy is utilized for lengthening arms, fingers, feet, spine, clavicle, shoulders, ribcage everything at the same time and height is just a part of it. so basically it just grows the whole frame proportionally, even growing facial bones and improving the facial symmetry and aesthetics. It growns the organs, brains, hearts etc aswell. its not overhauled.

Loosing 2-3 inches may not sound much, but considering its a result of loosing bone/muscle mass proportionally throughout the human frame, not just the vertical length of bones. Its like a 10 year old boy vs a 25y old man. he aint just taller but bigger overall.

gaining back something from cll be it unproportional atleast mends the wound caused by missed growth during teenage based on genetic potential. thts y i always advice growing youngsters to not make the same mistakes.

What you said is deep and profound u might or might not've realised. Forgiving is really difficult, but you must forgive yourself and accept this fate. I forgave myself long ago i remember even before i ever planned on cll but now even after cll, sometimes, the past still haunts me. But what is the only recompense is I pour this knowledge to the teenagers who matter to me and save them especially in this electronic and stressful era. The regrets grow less on me every year and I accept who I am.

You're wrong. Losing 2-3" is a world difference. That's about how much people are willing to through ridiculous surgery like LL for.

I would regret so much even if I only lost 1" (not that I'm suggesting I only lost 1")

It has been 10 years for me. And my anger just keeps cultivating.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 10:38 pm
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How does one figure out what height they were supposed to be? Is there a formula or something for it that we know to correctly calculate it with high accuracy?
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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 11:15 pm
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Quote from: soitchi on November 09, 2019, 10:38:51 PMHow does one figure out what height they were supposed to be? Is there a formula or something for it that we know to correctly calculate it with high accuracy?

The question is not "How do you know that you stunted your growth?" but "How do you know that you didn't?

All I know is that the things I did (which I could have not done) could stunt my height and there's no scientist that I can invalidate it and that's good enough for me.
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