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Posted on Oct 12, 2019, 2:32 pm
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f you want a leg lengthening alternative for 1-2 inches, go to Melbourne, Florida. An orthopedic surgeon there wrote a paper describing how using a muscle relaxer, a spine stretching treatment, and then stabilizing the elongated spine, you can add an inch or two of height. This was in relation to a functional procedure, but the author makes it clear that the height gain can also be achieved for purely cosmetic reasons.

Doctor’s name is Richard Hyne, B.A.C.K. Center, Melbourne FL.

Here’s the paper:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090093852


Of interest are paragraphs 40- 70; below I highlight key info in paragraphs 43,44 and 61

Other important considerations in the procedure are the state of the patient's spine at the time of the procedure. For example, if the procedure is performed in the morning, as opposed to latter in the day, the patient may end up with a different height, as disc height is greatest in the morning after a night of sleep due to increased fluid intake, and decreases with axial loading throughout the day. As such, in some embodiments at least the disc treatment portions of the procedure may be performed in the morning shortly after awakening to facilitate increased height of disc fill, for example. This aspect is further refined by the addition of pre-procedure muscle relaxation with intravenous or intramuscular injection of approved pharmaceuticals, e.g., robaxin, skelaxin, soma, etc. In other embodiments, use of paralyzing agents with general anesthesia may be used for more rigid or stiff patients. Use of SSEP (Somatosensory evoked potential) monitoring may be employed to protect the patient against over distraction or correction, elongation or shortening of the spine resulting in spinal cord injury or other nerve injury.
To this end, traction, bracing, suspension, inversion tables, therapy, muscle relaxants, chiropractic adjustments, etc. may be used to advantageously place the spine in the desired position prior to the procedure, at Block 112. Moreover, medication such as ligament relaxors (e.g., relaxin) may also be used to achieve natural elongation of the spine before the procedures, and after as well, to achieve the desired axial height increase/stability.
In another example, a 45-year-old man, who is 5 feet 4 and has always desired greater height, asks his doctor if there is any way to “safely” be taller. The patient would enter index determination, pre-procedure stretching, traction medical muscle and/or ligament relaxor treatment, etc. After a desired elongation (e.g., 1-2 inches) through this pre-treatment, an early morning procedure may be performed to stabilize the appropriate anatomic structures, namely disc and facet joints, and interspinous ligaments (but not vertebral bodies) to maintain this increased height gain. If at some later point in his life it is determined that he is at risk for fractures, then the vertebral bodies could be subsequently stabilized.
The author states in easily comprehensible terms that a 45 year old man can use a muscle relaxer to increase his height by 1-2 inches. It would of course have to be in conjunction with stretching, traction, and the actual surgical treatment, but afterwards, you would end up maybe 1.5 inches taller after maybe 3 days of hospital stay. Much, much faster than any type of limb lengthening surgery today.



To those who believe this would only work on old people who’s spines have shrunk with age, and is just undoing that process, look up at what age Men start to shrink and the rate of shrinkage.

For the lazy:
Age Men start to shrink: anywhere between age of 35-50
Rate of shrinkage: no more than an inch every 10 years

If the man in the example within the paper were to have started shrinking at the earliest age (unlikely, as the paper says he’s always wanted to be taller, **not that he recently shrunk**), this means he would have lost **at most 1 inch of height** as he’s 45. And the paper clearly states he would increase his height anywhere between 1-2 inches!

To put it more simply for the mathematically challenged:
At age 45 it’s highly unlikely for you to have lost height from a shrunken spine significantly—no more than 1 inch at most. And yet the paper says the 45 year old can gain 1-2 inches of height, so at the very least, 1 inch of height should be attainable pre-spinal-shrinkage, as in, at any age (obviously you should wait until you’re done growing though).

And for those wondering: Since this is solely focused on the spine/torso, it can presumably be done *in addition* to leg lengthening. So if you were planning on adding 3 inches with leg lengthening, you can very likely add 4-5 inches total to your height, if you were to undergo this procedure as well. This procedure would also help out those worried about proportions after leg lengthening, as it would lengthen your torso 1-2 inches.

I haven’t gone because I don’t have that as a priority (would need to fix my scoliosis first, presumably) but by all means, if you are wanting to grow an inch or two... go to Florida, ASAP because this doctor looks old and who knows when he’ll retire.

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Posted on Oct 13, 2019, 3:06 pm
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Well, now we just need someone willing to try out changing their spine to get diaries.

Aside from leg lengthening, there is inserting something at the bottoms of your foot (doesn't sound appealing) or I guess now there is this thing you are mentioning. Astronauts grow slightly in space from the spine decompressing slightly though it goes back to normal afterwards so I guess I'm not that optimistic but maybe I'm wrong?

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Posted on Oct 30, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Only 1 reply? So...we are just going to pretend this does not exist or...?  Leg Lengthening Alternative for a Quick 1-2 Inch Gain (Seriously)

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Posted on Oct 30, 2019, 1:36 pm
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I think, 1-2 inches in the spine along with legs lengthening looks very attractive.
Is this an expensive procedure?

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Posted on Nov 1, 2019, 1:04 am
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Quote from: TruthBomber on October 30, 2019, 01:02:24 PMOnly 1 reply? So...we are just going to pretend this does not exist or...?  Leg Lengthening Alternative for a Quick 1-2 Inch Gain (Seriously)


No, I totally agree. This is a game changer. One thing to note, is that the taller you are, the more your spine can theoretically decompress. If you start at 5’7” your upper limit might be 2-3 inches.

Anyways, have you had any luck contacting Dr. Hynes? I’ve tried calling his office but I never get a response.

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Posted on Nov 1, 2019, 1:15 am
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Quote from: Iron_Man on October 30, 2019, 01:36:41 PMI think, 1-2 inches in the spine along with legs lengthening looks very attractive.
Is this an expensive procedure?


Spinal fusion surgery is one of the most difficult and dangerous surgeries from what i understand and the price for that is about $30k?

The patent makes it clear that this is a minimally invasive, easy procedure, so I can’t imagine it costing more than spinal fusion surgery.

The challenge is getting in touch with Dr. Hayes, let alone convincing him to do it. It seems to me that Spine specialists are very risk adverse

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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 7:13 pm
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Has he actually done this on anyone before and is this even regulated? I've never heard of this procedure, but if its possible it would be a dream come true. 1-2 inches on torso and 2-3 on legs thats a 5 inch gain. From your link though, it really seems like just a study and it says the patent was abandoned this year.

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Posted on Nov 9, 2019, 8:09 pm
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Quote from: taller2018 on November 09, 2019, 07:13:49 PMHas he actually done this on anyone before and is this even regulated? I've never heard of this procedure, but if its possible it would be a dream come true. 1-2 inches on torso and 2-3 on legs thats a 5 inch gain. From your link though, it really seems like just a study and it says the patent was abandoned this year.


No, to my knowledge this is just a study. The patent application was abandoned due to “failure by office to respond” or something.

I don’t think the patent abandonment is necessarily an indication that the procedure wouldn’t work. I think it’s more an indication of market. He probably realized very quickly that proactive spinal treatments are a tough sell, let alone cosmetic treatments.

I think the only way to make this happen is something along these lines:
1. Be a high net worth individual
2. Fly to Florida and do an in person meeting
3. Convince the doc to try/explore the procedure (pay him?)
4. Do the procedure once he’s developed/tested it

In all seriousness, that’s probably the only way this is happening. Otherwise there’s just too much risk + too little money in cosmetic spine treatments for him to try this otherwise.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2019, 8:54 am
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Actually, I think there could be a market for this kind of procedure, and I'm not just talking about the people on this forum. Think about it , there are so many weird surgical procedures in this world and they still have a market. The reason most people are against limb lengthening in the first place is because of so many things, time, cost, stigma, recovery etc and its all very understandable. But when you say there is this new treatment that is minimally invasive and could get you 2 inches without taking at least a full year to walk properly again, I do think that is quite significant.

By the way, I've read reviews on B.A.C.K center and the reviews are absolutely s hit  .

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Posted on Dec 9, 2019, 11:40 am
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Bumping this

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