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Posted on Nov 22, 2019, 12:07 pm
#11

Quote from: hanshi on November 22, 2019, 09:33:27 AMAt 5'11 you have the perfect height for a top model. Why on earth would you want to desecrate your beautiful body? Not to mention the permanent damage to your health and the crazy risk involved. Long legs are an asset, they look beautiful.

As to Dr. Betz, I don't know whether you have read this thread:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64558.msg168267#msg168267

Take the money and go on a vacation or invest it. Don't throw away what god has blessed you with.

5'11 is quite tall for a woman. Being tall is just one of manny qualities models have . For an average woman being 5'11 is very similar in situation to being a short guy.

I don't know how safe shortening is however. Are there any research published on this? ?

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Posted on Nov 22, 2019, 1:10 pm
#12

Quote from: limewalk on November 22, 2019, 12:07:59 PM5'11 is quite tall for a woman. Being tall is just one of manny qualities models have . For an average woman being 5'11 is very similar in situation to being a short guy.



This is a very stupid thing to say. Top models are mostly tall. That's because tall is considered beautiful. Short men are not considered beautiful. 5'11 is tall for a woman but not super tall. In some Countries like the Netherlands this would be almost average for females.

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Posted on Nov 22, 2019, 1:32 pm
#13

Quote from: hanshi on November 22, 2019, 01:10:12 PMThis is a very stupid thing to say. Top models are mostly tall. That's because tall is considered beautiful. Short men are not considered beautiful. 5'11 is tall for a woman but not super tall. In some Countries like the Netherlands this would be almost average for females.

If she lives in Netherlands and the average female height there is almost 5'11 then you are right.


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Posted on Nov 24, 2019, 10:17 pm
#14

Quote from: limewalk on November 22, 2019, 12:07:59 PM5'11 is quite tall for a woman. Being tall is just one of manny qualities models have . For an average woman being 5'11 is very similar in situation to being a short guy.

I don't know how safe shortening is however. Are there any research published on this? ?
No it's not similar.

And shortening is a lot more dangerous than lengthening.

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Posted on Nov 25, 2019, 7:54 am
#15

I think it's actually the opposite. I'm not sure why you would think it would be more dangerous. The only real complications would be mal-union or potential muscle/tendon laxity, although I'm not sure over the scale discussed (2-3 inches) it's a significant concern.

Also brief update, reached out to Rozbruch - he also does it apparently, but he charges about the same as limb lengthening cases (which is kind of bizarre). I'm getting some more info on that -- I would think the costs would be significantly less.

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Posted on Nov 25, 2019, 8:58 am
#16

Quote from: the_lilypad on November 25, 2019, 07:54:55 AMI think it's actually the opposite. I'm not sure why you would think it would be more dangerous. The only real complications would be mal-union or potential muscle/tendon laxity, although I'm not sure over the scale discussed (2-3 inches) it's a significant concern.

Also brief update, reached out to Rozbruch - he also does it apparently, but he charges about the same as limb lengthening cases (which is kind of bizarre). I'm getting some more info on that -- I would think the costs would be significantly less.
Your reply seems a bit naive. Think about it: the femur needs to be cut twice and the middle piece needs to be removed. After that you get nailed with a trauma nail. Therefore the procedure is like an open fracture. The chance to get a bone infection is not negligible here. Did you study what could happen in case of a bone infection?

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Posted on Nov 25, 2019, 4:17 pm
#17

leg shortening is more complicated than lengthening as the others have mentioned.
Also you can expect more decreased physical abilities than a lengthening.

The muscles and tendons play a big role in limiting our legs range and flexibility when sitting, walking, running, jumping etc.
What happens when you shorten the leg and muscles/tendons have extra centimeters of slack. Its gonna have consequences for your body.

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Posted on Nov 25, 2019, 6:08 pm
#18

Quote from: TinyTL on November 25, 2019, 04:17:58 PMleg shortening is more complicated than lengthening as the others have mentioned.
Also you can expect more decreased physical abilities than a lengthening.

The muscles and tendons play a big role in limiting our legs range and flexibility when sitting, walking, running, jumping etc.
What happens when you shorten the leg and muscles/tendons have extra centimeters of slack. Its gonna have consequences for your body.

I'm not sure why you and the previous poster think this is the case. I've actually done a lot of research on this. Leg shortening is usually preferred over leg lengthening for short discrepancies, and the risk of infection is about the same.
Additionally, from readings on femoral shortening almost all of the initial muscle strength is regained; somewhere around 93-96%.

Also update for others interested - Rozbruch is more aggressive, offering 4 inches, with a shortening mode on the internal fixator (how does that even work?). I think 4 inches would be too much though, since it would mess up proportions even more than 2-3.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2019, 11:02 pm
#19

Update: Contacted Dr. Debiparshad in Las Vegas, his assistant quoted me $30-40k which is much more reasonable. She mentioned they can do up to 6 cm shortening, which on analysis, is probably all I would reasonably go for (since 4 inches I feel could mess up my proportions).

Also mentioned he's done this before, the recovery time is 3 months but I should be able to walk immediately after since it's a lot simpler than lengthening.

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Posted on Jan 19, 2020, 9:32 pm
#20

Hey Illypad, thanks for keeping us informed about your research. Everyone may think what he wants to. Important is what we get after all.
You are not alone. I sometimes feel this whole idea is too crazy to discuss. But Olivia Jones did it and it was successful. Maybe the doctors payed more attention on her case because she is a celebrity.
Anyway text me if you need a friend on this journey

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